ds1 Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 DTA Euroe has bugger all to do with Global Rifle. The bloke behind DTA is a gentleman who will litteraly go the extra 1000 miles to make sure his cutomers are happy, as in delivering a new barrel to a customer who thought his barrel was not shooting right...about 1000 miles away. Price in one cal is around the 5k mark I guess (not 10K). The only way you get to that sort of price is on a "deployment package" with 308 and 338 barrels, bolts and all the extras and a hrad case to put it in. David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaitsev Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 Slightly O/T here chaps but a conversation reported to me at the Midland and witnessed by at least two trustworthy fellows.. On the global rifle stand and looking at a .50 of some description the gentleman was assured that it was capable of man sized targets at 6.5 miles and you could fire 200 shots in a day with no problems. 'Thats funny' said the gentleman in question 'Tank turrets at 2500 yards are not that easy with a .50' Cue end of spiel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deserttech Europe Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 Evening, Just a short answer to set the record straight. DTA were not on display at the Midland game fair, nor did we have representation there. The DTA Stealth Recon Scout does not cost £10,000 with the actual cost being closer to half that. I would like to think that this has been a simple confusion between our product and other competitors products available at this time. Best regards DTA Europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streeker59 Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 I think the confusion about cost is because a very similar rifle known as the DSR precision is over £10k.. http://www.guntrader.co.uk/GunsForSale/100925153326845 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streeker59 Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 Witnessed this group being fired today at 900yds with a DTA in 308. There are 3 orange markers in the target marking the 3 shots of the group. (and one white patch marking the centre of the target). For reference, each dot on the mil ret is 0.2mRad in diameter. So this is about a 0.2MOA group at 900yds That's the best group I've ever seen at that distance; hence the pic! The rifle averaged 0.5MOA at 800, 900 and 1000yds. If these short barrelled rifles will produce groups this tight at 900 yards, why are we told we need 30" barrels to ensure supersonic bullet delivery at these ranges ? my head hurts.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varmartin Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 The barrels may appear short in a `bullpup` but this one http://www.guntrader.co.uk/GunsForSale/100925153326845 still has a 25" tube....22" is ample all the way out to 1K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deserttech Europe Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 Martin, you are 100% correct, The unique advantage of the bullpup configuration is in the way it allows a reasonable length barrel in what is still an extremely compact rifle. regards DTA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streeker59 Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 You miss my point guys. I knew the DSR has a 25" inch barrel but the DTA has a 22" tube. My question was, if a 22" barrel will keep a 155grn or heavier bullet supersonic all the way out to 1000 yards, why are others saying one needs a 30" tube to achieve the same goal ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deserttech Europe Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 In my 22" DTA tube I am acheiving 2850fps with a 155Scenar on top of 46gr Varget in Lapua Brass. This is about a 75 fps drop from my previous rifle with MUCH longer barrel, however it is plenty fast enought to reach out there and more than makes up for this slight drop in speed by its ease of handling. I could always go to a longer barrel and still be compact but dont think it is necessary for this load. After saying that, I am currently getting a 1in10 30" barrel being made to shoot the 208 grain AMAX from and this will be with optical sights (hench the length for sight radius) ....for no other reason than it will be a bit of fun and I wanted to see what I could get them to. regards DTA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch_egg Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 As mentioned above , I probably have got the companies confused. However I did mention desert arms tactical and was most certainly not corrected. The short barrel data is very interesting. If you are going 1 in 10 you will also be able to stabalise the heavier bullets at sub-sonic velocities which would be rather nice out of such a short handling weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finman Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 Ah...I bet they are not available left hand...(and, no, I don't like a bolt to hit me in the face everytime I reload!) best wishes, Finman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varmartin Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 You miss my point guys. I knew the DSR has a 25" inch barrel but the DTA has a 22" tube. My question was, if a 22" barrel will keep a 155grn or heavier bullet supersonic all the way out to 1000 yards, why are others saying one needs a 30" tube to achieve the same goal ? Because they have been missled.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ds1 Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 With 308 Win there is a big difference in requied barrel length to get to 1000 yards supersonic and 1200 yards supersonic - Quickload or Brown Dogs data charts are your friend. David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deserttech Europe Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 Scotch Egg I think we are on the same wavelength.... on our next batch I also have a "covert model" (even shorter) coming in which will have a subsonic twist 16" barrel. I think this will be a fantastic piece of kit for sorting out Charlie at anything up to 300m. regards DTA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deserttech Europe Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 Finman, no I am afraid they are not specifically left handed. With my company hat on, I should say that they are ok left handed and whilst I can and have shot them this way, I would not recommned this as a left handed solution. sorry regards DTA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigBenson Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 Good god! I want one of them. I'd love to know the price (want to know if it's worth dreaming about or saving for). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tackb Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 i saw these at newark , £5000 yes £5000 !!! you can buy a lot of custom tactical kit for that money that will be built to the exact spec you want ? another £2500 for a scope plus £500 for a moderator (you will have to have titanium at this price!) a couple of mags , sling etc and i think you could easily be knocking on the door of 10k ????? I thought the trigger was 'ok' but thats not good enough for a 5k rifle i don't think? it's handy and very well built but simply too expensive IMO , if they launched it at a reasonable price and people brought it and it turned out to be a real shooter 1/2" with factory match then they could start to increase the price. just my opinion of what is a very cool piece of kit......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gun Pimp Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 I was also sceptical regarding the accuracy claims made for this rifle but at Newark, I had chance to see one stripped. Let's just say, you won't see a better supported barrel anywhere - and this is one one the major contributing factors towards accuracy. It's a very, very well thought out piece of kit. Price? - Go see your gunsmith and tell him you want a long-range tactical rifle GUARANTEED to shoot sub. half MOA and see how much change you get out of five grand! The trigger? OK not maybe a Jewell or Kelbly but for a tactical rifle, I was more than happy with it. Cheers Vince Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryh Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 Vince, From my gunsmith about £1000 http://www.kmwlrs.com/Rifles%20For%20Sale.htm Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannywayoflife Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 ive got to say if im ever in a possition to justify spending £5000 on a rifle then this is what i would buy! Its the rifle equivalent to Jenna Jameson!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted March 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 Its the rifle equivalent to Jenna Jameson!! Hope not; that'd mean they've been shagged by about 4500 blokes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c18rch Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Hope not; that'd mean they've been XXXXXX by about 4500 blokes! I accept my slap on the wrist from the other post and but sorry, I can't resist. unsubstantiatable observation? I've known about these rifles for ages and was wondering how long before they made it over here. It was one of the things I wanted to look at, at Newark but unfortunately I couldn't make it. Looks like an impressive bit of kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted March 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 I accept my slap on the wrist from the other post and but sorry, I can't resist. unsubstantiatable observation? Unsubstantiatable in the case of Jenna Jameson? Ummm, I think maybe you're not familiar with her 'performance art' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldie Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 I have the very test rifle sat in my armoury now. It came at a good price for a test gun, and Tim, who brought it up was a really nice young fella, who will go a long way in the gun trade. This gun is going to one of my clients who does a fair bit of stalking and who likes military rifles. I personally think the trigger is exceptional for a bullpup. I should be testing it this week, but it has to be in London by wednesday, so no chance. A very well built gun. As with anything supplied to the military...overpriced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRGNXL Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 Can anyone compare the DTA SRS to the Keppeler KS V bullpup? that would definitely be an interesting head to head comparison. http://i2.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/001250/1250632.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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