brown dog Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Recently I had the opportunity to get hands-on with a couple of the first batch of Desert Arms Tactical “Stealth Recon Scout” (SRS) Rifles to reach UK. Managed to give them a workout at 100m with RUAG 155 Factory, Lapua 167 Factory and my ‘standard’ 308 load launching 155 Scenars. Everything – I mean everything –went sub 0.5 MOA from both rifles -including 3-shot rapid groups. First impressions of the rifles: I really liked them; very well made and finished (I had half expected to find something prototype-ish); surprisingly heavy and robust; very (infact; surprisingly) ergonomic. The bullpup layout is really well balanced for sitting -way better than a normal rifle. Despite what you might assume - bolt manipulation was easy & fast & -crucially! – as mentioned earlier – they were extremely accurate –helped by really good triggers. Shown here for scale, an AW with 24” barrel, compared to 2 SRSs each with a 22” Barrel: Only real downside to me was that SA80 has tainted my view of bullpups forever. I’m working to get over it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilishdave Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 looks good and shoots good, how much does one of them go for and what is the sope on it? Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryh Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 BD, Nice! Muzzel break 'blast' being closer in - more? Off topic - how did you find the Atlas bipod(s)?? Costings would be good + barrel swop options? Range of cartridges offered this side of pond? Interesting Cheers Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancslad Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 OOOOHHHHH....ME LIKEY............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ds1 Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 I'm starting to really warm to the idea of getting one chassis and two or three barrels - 338 Lap, 6.5x47 and 308 win. David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streeker59 Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 They certainly look the piece... My only concern with bullpups is that if the breech lets go, so does your face... A million to one chance i know unless one does something stupid but we all make mistakes one in a while. No i've never had a breach let go but i know folks who have. A gen concern or am i being paranoid ? Grant.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted July 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 They certainly look the piece... My only concern with bullpups is that if the breech lets go, so does your face...A million to one chance i know unless one does something stupid but we all make mistakes one in a while. No i've never had a breach let go but i know folks who have. A gen concern or am i being paranoid ? Grant.. In this case paranoid I think; the breech etc here is buried deep inside a large metal receiver (think -assault rifle receiver) such that I would think that any form of breech explosion, bolt opening or gas escape (assuming you're firing it right-handed) is probably more safely contained than in a conventional bolt action. However, if we were discussing crapahute or similar rifles in which you directly rest your cheek on the chamber I'd agree with you. To those who've asked pricing etc questions; answers will be here shortly 'from the horses mouth'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratwhiskers Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 BD. How did you find the bolt handling so far back?? did it change your shoulder set up at all along with nat' point of aim?? Nice to see you @ the CLA, btw. Regards. D. .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 Looks a lovely bit of kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted July 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 BD. How did you find the bolt handling so far back?? did it change your shoulder set up at all along with nat' point of aim?? Nice to see you @ the CLA, btw. Regards. D. Ditto The bolt is a total non-issue; got to say it surprised me as i expected it to be awkward. Here's my latest youtube biff attempt -sorry about the sound desynch (and image quality - must have clicked the wrong button somewhere along the way ) As you can see, just the same as operating a normal bolt (infact, I hope you'll note less disturbance and head lift than you'll see on 90% of punters using a conventional rifle!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratwhiskers Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 BD. Nice bit of film, point taken. Regards. D. .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonhunter Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 BD. Nice bit of film, point taken. Regards. D. .... I just bought one in Canada and shot about 200 rounds before returning to the UK. Remember cost in US is retail US$4800 ( I got it for much much less) The yanks told me somebody in northhampton got the dealership and have one rifle in UK for demo Quality is good, versitile in terms of exchangibility in parts but not DSR comparable. More calibers to come according to Canadian dealer. Atlas bipod is as stable as anything we have available here but cost more of course like anything else new So bottomline is how much this importer is going to charge over here ..................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sedwise Posted August 3, 2010 Report Share Posted August 3, 2010 I like the look of them . Never been sure about bull pups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deserttech Europe Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 Hello, I have been asked by your site owner to offer any assistance and answer any questions regarding the DTA product line. For information, a DTA SRS in .308 retails in the UK at £4995 (inc VAT, customs duty, freight and proofing) If there are any other questions please feel free to post and I will do my best to answer them prompty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonhunter Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 Hello, I have been asked by your site owner to offer any assistance and answer any questions regarding the DTA product line. For information, a DTA SRS in .308 retails in the UK at £4995 (inc VAT, customs duty, freight and proofing) If there are any other questions please feel free to post and I will do my best to answer them prompty. I will bring mine back to blighty as personal import pay the duty and sell it for US $4995 I think I will be quids up Any takers ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deserttech Europe Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 London Hunter is offering a fantastic deal. !!!! If someone is swithering on these rifles I would snap it up, I honestly don't envisage many being available second hand for some time as when you own one you will want it as a keeper. regards DTA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted August 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 Witnessed this group being fired today at 900yds with a DTA in 308. There are 3 orange markers in the target marking the 3 shots of the group. (and one white patch marking the centre of the target). For reference, each dot on the mil ret is 0.2mRad in diameter. So this is about a 0.2MOA group at 900yds That's the best group I've ever seen at that distance; hence the pic! The rifle averaged 0.5MOA at 800, 900 and 1000yds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay222 Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 thats a hell of a group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LONG RANGE CAPT Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 Great group, what type of ammo was being fired ? Kind Regards Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deserttech Europe Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 Hello Rob That group was fired with 175 Sierra SMK on top of 44 gr Varget in Lapua Brass (full length sized and trimmed) with CCIBR2 at 2.81" OAL. That load came about after 15 mins of load development, landed on this shooting sub half moa and left it there, also found 46gr Varget behind a 155 Scenar as accurate. regards DTA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch_egg Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 I was told by a lady on a stall at the Midland show today that these are nearly £10,000 in the Uk now. I mentioned that I had seen them being sold for £5,500 and she spouted that it must have been a second hand item that had been butchered. She was quite shocked when I had mentioned the make and model before she had spoken. Not a great advert for what appears to be an effective weapons system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deerman Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 I was told by a lady on a stall at the Midland show today that these are nearly £10,000 in the Uk now. I mentioned that I had seen them being sold for £5,500 and she spouted that it must have been a second hand item that had been butchered. She was quite shocked when I had mentioned the make and model before she had spoken. Not a great advert for what appears to be an effective weapons system. A friend of mine bought one of these in .308 and came to me for a titanium moderator. He paid less that £5k for his. Best, George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonhunter Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 A friend of mine bought one of these in .308 and came to me for a titanium moderator. He paid less that £5k for his. Best, George Are you sure you were not talking to Global rifle at the time and mixed it up with a DSR ? If a desert tactical is being sold for £10000 then I am speechless. I have since my last post sold mine on guns america through a relative for around the same a what I paid for it originally I would love to get a 338 version next year when i have more time to play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deerman Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 Are you sure you were not talking to Global rifle at the time and mixed it up with a DSR ? If a desert tactical is being sold for £10000 then I am speechless. I have since my last post sold mine on guns america through a relative for around the same a what I paid for it originally I would love to get a 338 version next year when i have more time to play Have no involvement with Global Rifle whatsoever. They are top of my Black List of companies to avoid. My friend bought a Desert Tactical just a couple of weeks ago. He will have the barrel taken down a bit to lighten the system a bit and use it for stalking as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonhunter Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 Have no involvement with Global Rifle whatsoever. They are top of my Black List of companies to avoid. My friend bought a Desert Tactical just a couple of weeks ago. He will have the barrel taken down a bit to lighten the system a bit and use it for stalking as well. WOW So technically the importer has doubled the value of the rifle and people are still buying ?!? I am speechless I have recently heard of somebody paying £2500 including VAT for a BAT action which is available for immediate build rather than waiting he coughed up and paid for the project immediately. I wish them all well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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