Jager SA Posted November 16, 2008 Report Share Posted November 16, 2008 James my dear chap,calm down anyone would think you has something to hide,I will personally ask Duracoat what there veiws are on this product as if its nothing to do with them and its NOT there product someone is in trouble for marketing it under there brand name of Duracoat Oh and Duracoat does come off but lest not start on that one please I will let you know straight away what I find out Im calm Pete dont you worry yourself. Something to hide? I think not mate, you have no idea who I deal with or at what level. Tell you what Pete, you go and get your Homebase Duracoat and I will coat that Nesika for you for free, then I will put another rifle thats been professionally finished along side it and perform some testing... Duracoat does come off... For someone that wants nothing to do with coating of rifles you certainly change your tune, oh but I forgot...its just information... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
col48 Posted November 16, 2008 Report Share Posted November 16, 2008 to add to this i phoned up my loacal homebase today to see if they stock it ,, they said "we do " any way when i get there they recon they dont its a round trip for me of 20 miles anny way i goes home and i check on their webby and phone the same branch back with a stock code and again they say they do ,,, i was pissed off to say the least any way i goes back and ###### me they have it in stock to cut a long story short i created a bit of a scene in the shop about them being useless deciduous trees and they let me by 20 tins for a quid each resultttttttttttttttttttttt spud are you branching out and have a contract to paint the 4th bridge ATB Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted November 16, 2008 Report Share Posted November 16, 2008 I will personally ask Duracoat what there veiws are on this product as if its nothing to do with them and its NOT there product someone is in trouble for marketing it under there brand name of Duracoat Well, I've no dog in this fight, but Funky, Don't forget to mention these fellows: http://www.duracoatuk.com/ and these: http://www.listawoodtradesupplies.co.uk/pr...§ion=13 and these: http://www.roberthorne.co.uk/products/dura...sfer-cartridge/ ..or, maybe, just accept that the Homebase is an unlikely place to find firearm finishing products . If not, good luck on your trademark crusade! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager SA Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 and as for who you deak with and at what level,whats that got to do with anyhting here james,again blowing something totally out of proportion As usual you dont see the wood for the trees...Some of the people I deal with dont have time for bullsh*t, neither would they deal with me if...how did you put...I something to hide... You really are a card... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest deer308 Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Im calm Pete dont you worry yourself. Something to hide? I think not mate, you have no idea who I deal with or at what level. Tell you what Pete, you go and get your Homebase Duracoat and I will coat that Nesika for you for free, then I will put another rifle thats been professionally finished along side it and perform some testing... Duracoat does come off... For someone that wants nothing to do with coating of rifles you certainly change your tune, oh but I forgot...its just information... kaleiderscope can you shed a bit of light on that (duracoat does come off) as i have a rifle been built at the moment which i intend to send to yourself for coating. regards chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager SA Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Jameswhat the hell you on about,trying to change the subject and turn thuings around yet again,please please show me where anything has been asked who you deal with,I dont care Iam not bothered I dont give two hoots,no can that be any easier to understand, All I would like to know id the stuff in the can is the same as what Duracoat markets to coat guns,now YOU done even know the answer so I will ask them simple isnt it stop trying to make a mountain from a mole hill for gods sake seems your the "card" mate a "Joker" I will leave it at that untill I have had the information I have requested as its plain to see your try to bait me,to get me banned as usual Pete, come off it, every site you go on your known as a wind up merchant, any forum you get banned from mate is down to one person...YOU. If you look who started this thread it certainly wasnt me...baiting you...yeah right pull the other one! If you cant see why some folk see you coming accross as vindictive you need to read all the posts you put on these sites, but do you know whats even more wierd...when anyone talks to you on the phone youre quite a nice bloke...advice...stay away from the keyboard! Nah it would be boring if you werent on the sites to entertain us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1967spud Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 spudare you branching out and have a contract to paint the 4th bridge ATB Colin no mate i am thinking of doing a series three land with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 I can't help but wonder that if it been one of Pete's mates running a rifle coating business would the question/information/speculation have been posted on here, please address your answers to No of course it wouldn't competition PO Box lol The Intraweb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1967spud Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Pete, come off it, every site you go on your known as a wind up merchant, any forum you get banned from mate is down to one person...YOU. If you look who started this thread it certainly wasnt me...baiting you...yeah right pull the other one! If you cant see why some folk see you coming accross as vindictive you need to read all the posts you put on these sites, but do you know whats even more wierd...when anyone talks to you on the phone youre quite a nice bloke...advice...stay away from the keyboard! Nah it would be boring if you werent on the sites to entertain us! cmon guys this is a great forum and we are meant to be like minded. lets stop the slaging each other off and shoot some vermin. if we feel that we need an argument, argue about this " men are better shots than women " there see, easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1967spud Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Spudyou must being reading a different thread to me,as i cant see "anywhere" someone being slagged off apart from James calling me "vindictive and a card" which I have taken on the chin as it was obviously thrown to get a rise out of me me bad then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapper063 Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 hi i would like to cammo my cz22lr and mamba scope but have been told it will cost £300 way above my budget any feedback please ive tried myself with plasticote from bq to no avail on my synthetic stock so frustrating when you get a quote saying affordable most rifles dont cost that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wsm Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Funky Bunch Theres won`t be anyone to blame when you are removed from the site other than yourself so don`t start trying to play the victim here You personally have had more leeway than anyone else on this board as you well know Its a real coincidence that you`ve jumped on the Duracoat thing again with the Kaleiderscope link isn`t it .Last time it was barrels and before that ATec .....................can you see the pattern emerging The trouble now is that people are wary of your motives now even when you do put something up thats vaguely interesting.Looking back on your history its strange how so many of the topics have ended up acrimoniously or is this another freaky coincidence Lets get things straight here this thread was put up to simply to try and somehow discredit the service that Kaleiderscope offers and not for the benefit of anyone on this site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager SA Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 and yes the posy is for the good of the members of this site as there is actually people out there who acnnot afford the expensive costs of Kals work BUT would like there rifles coated PLEASE ALL USE JAMES FOR DURACOAT,HE DOES A VERY NICE JOB AND IS AN HONEST GUY TO DEAL WITH. Er how do you know my work is expensive then Pete? You get what you pay in life, you of all people know this, dont you own a Nesika rifle...so what was wrong with a Remington...? If people think my services are expensive there are alternatives for less money, and again you get what you pay for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager SA Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 JamesI actually own "two" Nesikas and they were lets just say "the dead right money" bought way way back when we didnt get our legs lifted with paperwork costs and silly add ons like that James lets not get into costs ect lets just find out if the tinned stuff is the same product and I agree you get what you pay for,but thats not always the case Pete, good for you, im sure they are peachy. For the benefit of everyone, ive just done some tests on the Homebase Duracoat Multi Surface spray paint... If anyone wishes to coat a rifle with this stuff then be my guest. As a cheap, non permanant amatuer colouring spray its cheap and might help those wanting to play, but its no better (So far) than Plastikote. My first coats were carried out this morning, ive coated a rusty Remington barrel (after proper preparation) and coated half with the Homebase offering and half with Duracoat Firearm finishes. The Homebase offering isnt even touch dry after being put in the oven for an hour. The Duracoat Firearm Finish was touch dry in 20 minutes and is now overnight cured after 1 hour in the oven. I will post a pic asap for you all to see, so you can make your own minds up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager SA Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 excellent,I look forward to seeing it,I also look forward to the reply from Duracoat which i will let you no as soon as I have it,one things James seeimg you have been on the net all morning when did you get time to go to Homebase ???? Im sure you are looking forward to seeing it...! Like I need you to let me know what Duracoat have to say...pleeease spare me... I speak to them on a regular basis so I would save yourself some time... Have I been on the net all morning...? oops, left the PC on, what a naughty chap I am. Er, I didnt have to go to Homebase, I know somebody who knows somebody else... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Elwoodnow before you accuse me of something please do your own homework,this isnt new news,as its on Passion for stalking,the stalking directory just to name two of which i lifted the post and asked the question here bearing in mind isnt the best place to ask the UK only offical certified Duracoat specialist you post is purley antaganistic to try and cause and argumnet moderators please deal with this post as it has nothing to do with the homebase tinned duracoat and quite clearly put up to try to get a rise out of me and disrupt the thread thank you Well it certainly isn't atagonistic and in my opinion not accusing either, merely just putting my thoughts across wrapped in a question with a sprinkling of humour, you know, big boys banter. All that said I will stand by my opening question. Anyway moving on as this thread seems to have made some progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager SA Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Ok chaps, here we go. As ive said this morning, I got some super dooper Homebase Duracoat multi surface paint...basically, plastikote! I also used like for like the Duracoat Firearm finish in exactly the same form, aerosol. As ive said the Homebase offering would not ambient dry so I put the barrel in the oven for one hour! The Duracoat Firearms finish was touch dry in 20 minutes and overnight cured in one hour. The Homebase offering was still tacky after the hours oven cure, however, ive left it until now to do the solvant test. Pictures below: This the homebase offering, I gave it the bigger surface area just so it couldnt be called unfair..but im sure it will! Note the uneven finish, which is typical of this type of paint. Here is the other half of the barrel with the Duracoat Firearm finish. Note the very even finish and less sheen. The next photo shows what happened to both finishes when Shooters choice is applied with a Q-tip. The one on the left, the homebase offering has come off completely showing bare surface. The one on the right is the Duracoat Firearm Finish which is intact but shows a surface blemish. This is not the 2 pack system I use, which doesnt shift with solvants. Now as ive said, this could be useful to those who want a quick fix (Dont want to pay me £95 for a barreled action) or play around, but in my opinion it doesnt have the properties you require as a corrosion/abrasion resistant firearm coating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager SA Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Jameshere you go as I said i would seeing you couldnt answer the question here is the answer from Duracoat DuraCoat is a protected trademark but in other countries I am sure other vendors are using that name. DuraCoat we sell is a resin and is two parts and requires the mixing in of a resin, you can not do that with sealed spray paint. Thank you Anthony G. Houts Houts Enterprises LLC www.HOUTSENTERPRISES.com so no its not the same stuff,I cant belive that its taken so many pages to get the right answer I knew the answer...I have known the answer since around Feb/March this year... I also know Houts Enterprises to name but a few...I sahll give them you regards when im next there! Do you honestly think I would get this involved with a Firearm coating business without doing my homework...please!!! Anyway, if you want some Homebase Duracoat Multi Surface Spray paint I can get it at trade... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 And let me play devils advocate. Funky bunch you could have done your homework first and then have given us the correct answers straight away. I think you will find that Kaleidescope did know the answers as I was the person who informed him of the product in February/March this year. And to reply to your one liner at the end of the post which is now closed, please remember to take yours out of your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
col48 Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 And let me play devils advocate. Funky bunch you could have done your homework first and then have given us the correct answers straight away. I think you will find that Kaleidescope did know the answers as I was the person who informed him of the product in February/March this year. Elwood there are moderators on this forum to play devils advocate. please let us know when you where made one??? ATB Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 I haven't been Colin as you well know, but I think my point is a valid one and if I have over stepped the mark with them I'm sure they will let me know in due course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
col48 Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 I haven't been Colin as you well know, but I think my point is a valid one and if I have over stepped the mark with them I'm sure they will let me know in due course. you could have all so but you chose to hid the product for nearly a year, so don't preach about what someone else should do. i think my point is valid to ATB Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Colin what exactly did I hide? a product that doesn't work on firearms and wasn't intended too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
col48 Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Colin what exactly did I hide? a product that doesn't work on firearms and wasn't intended too? Dave/Ian you hid the fact that you and kal had all ready asked the questions,( y was this not said on the forum at the start of the thread,) so what was you both doing then ? just trying to get funky band? i think we can now see y this post went on so long, despicable. no need to spray a barrel and make out that you where concerned, just publish the all ready known answers. what a load of ###### . ATB Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingbags Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Elwood there are moderators on this forum to play devils advocate. please let us know when you where made one??? ATB Colin The moderators on here don't need to play devils advocate - give some people enough rope............................. Also , for the record, it is my belief that right from the start Funky only had one goal in mind and that was to create problems for James. Why else contact Duracoat ? So what if there is another product with the same name? I am sure Funky can read and if it was the same product it would say on the can in Homebase 'produced for Homebase in the US by Houtts Enterprises LLC ' or words to that effect. It obviously doesn't say this. It obviously wasn't the answer Funky hoped for when he contacted Duracoat in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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