brave Echo niner Posted September 9, 2018 Report Share Posted September 9, 2018 Hi all, I have recently been looking for suitable scopes to accompany a 6.5 X 47 Lapua which is to be used on deer. I have been looking at the 'tactical' scopes as I would like to be able to dial in both elevation and windage (in MRAD with zerostop). I would want around 16-30 power for maximum magnification. I stumbled upon the Sightron scopes and seeing them quite a lot cheaper than the likes of schmidt and bender or nightforce wondered if they could compete? If people feel they can what model would people recommend? Many thanks, Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Re-Pete Posted September 9, 2018 Report Share Posted September 9, 2018 Well I've got 5 of them, 4 8-32's and 1 6-24........................... As for which model/reticle, check out their catalogue and pick one to suit your needs. They all offer excellent value for money, and are sharp and contrasty. Re-Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaedra1106uk Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 3 here, an 8-32x56 and 2 of the 10-50x60 No complaints at all, only reticles I wouldn't have are the fine crosshair and the target dot, I prefer MOA2 or the newer MOA-H reticles. https://sightronusa.com/reticles/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20series Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 Yep I have two, one each 8-32 And 10-50, excellent value. Also have a look at the Vortex range, similar price and specs. Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triffid Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 To me you're specifying a target scope but proposing to use it to shoot deer. Most UK deer shooting is done at ranges below 200 yards, probably 100 is more like it or even lower for woodland. At these ranges there is little need for dialing in elevation / windage, nor for very high magnification. In my opinion these things will detract from your stalking, potentially loosing you deer. My favourite hunting scope is a Swaro 6x40. It's got impressive low-light capability and a duplex reticule so you can pick-up the crosshair easily. All the European makers do something broadly similar and they can be had for a few hundred quid second-hand. I also use it quite successfully on targets out to 600x . . . there's no absolute need for high magnification. Triffid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 Defining the context of competing would be fun. If you shooting is limited to daytime use then a Sightron 6-24 or 8-32 is more than good enough, I would expect a nice S&B to offer you an extra shooting time at dusk but only you will know if that matters in your case? I shoot 600 & 1000yd benchrest with a Sightron S3 scope, every month I check out other peoples scopes on the firing line that range from £3000 March scopes, through S&B and Nightforce. For sure some will offer a slightly better sight picture at 1000yds but not that much better than mu groups would be smaller. I think Sightron S3 scopes are good honest scopes that offer excellent value for money, especially in the second hand market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oak tree Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 Quote Most UK deer shooting is done at ranges below 200 yards, probably 100 is more like it or even lower for woodland. At these ranges there is little need for dialing in elevation / windage, nor for very high magnification. In my opinion these things will detract from your stalking, potentially loosing you deer. I would disagree about potentially loosing deer. I control deer for a living, a lot of us were equipped with zoom scopes about 15 years ago and the general opinion is that we wouldnt go back to 6x42's. Most of the time I carry my rifles on 8x so it's easy to get ready and shoot quickly but I often zoom in a bit when the situation requires. If it's there (zoom and dial's) you dont need to use it but you can if it is desirable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brave Echo niner Posted September 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 Thanks for all the replies guys, glad to see that lots of you like them and also that they're consistent across many scopes! I have to agree with Oak Tree on this one as its better to not need it than not have it. I currently stalk with a 308 equipped with a Kahles 4.5-18 with several notches for zeroing at different ranges (forgotten what its called) it can be really useful to have, and if nothing else gives peace of mind that you can very accurately hit at more extended ranges. How much time at dusk do you think you would lose compared to a S&B? Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No i deer Posted September 20, 2018 Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 None. I've got 2 x S111 8-32 scopes.great scopes.moa 2 reticles which one is illuminated centre dot is on my hunting rifles.superb low light asset.when you lose a normal reticle the illuminated dot is brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM308 Posted September 20, 2018 Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 got both s and b and sightron - for the money you can't beat sightron in my opinion. the s and b's are nice and well built but i've had vortex / leupold burris sightron and simmons and the only scope i had a warranty recall with was the schmidt. try em in a shop and pick the one you like - you probably won't go wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No i deer Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 Big Al holds the british record 1000yds benchrest 5 shot group using a sightron so a £3000 scope won't make you a better shooter but will make you look good trying ?.nowt wrong with that either...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 I once had a Sightron but found that eye positioning was unforgivingly critical compared to my S & Bs. I could not get on with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gun Pimp Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 The higher mag (50X) are very critical on eye-relief but no probs with the 8-32 and below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick 53 Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 I have 8-32 LRMOA reticle ,fantastic scope well worth the money, used for Fclass and Some Benchrest shooting . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No i deer Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 I've not used above 32 mag so I couldn't of known that. I think the Next time I shoot in.mirage I will leave the mag at full if that's what the shooters do in hotter climates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris-NZ Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 If the application is truly deer shooting, and I surmising here it's gonna be under 500yds, there is NO need to go above 15 power. More particularly, if there's ever any bush stalking, it's desirable to have a bottom end no greater than 4X. I have heap of different scopes ranging from basic 3-9s on rimfires up to various NXS/ATAC-R/ Swaros. My sub-350yd bush deer gun wears a 2.5-8 VX-III and my long range big banger has a 3.5-18 Swaro. I have -easily- shot deer at 350yds with the 8x Leupold. If you want a portable flexible scope, maybe something sized about 4-16x 40/ max 50. If you really want to cut loose "coz you can", go for it but it won't be any more practical than what I've suggested, probably far less. If you're looking at Sightron, one of their 6-24s would be the absolute max I'd put on a hunting gun and I still think it's too powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No i deer Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 If your shooting varmints and larger quarry with one rifle your alrounder a good zoom is essential for precission shots.a fixed power is a good choice for close but reaching out all the mag you've got and more with the right application will be a much better suited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick 53 Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 In Basc the deer department recommended no more than 6x or fixed power as shooting in forestry you didn’t need high power scopes . if you was shooting long range and had the land and a good safe back stop then a variable scope would be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oak tree Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 surely being able to see better using higher magnification is not an disadvantage whether you are shooting deer or anything else for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejg223 Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 My favourite hunting scope is a 3-20x50 PMII ultra short. Most of my deer are shot either slightly further out or just small parts of the body visible in high grass/cover. Even the odd off-hand close range deer is no problem with that. I think 6x42 is too much mag for some situations and too little for most situations. Even at low light higher mag really helps you to see what you are shooting at. For hunting and a bit of target shooting crossover 6-24 would be my limit. A customer got a SIII FFP Mil 6-24 through us, it is a very clear scope and he is very happy with it. For hunting I prefer lockable turrets. edi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No i deer Posted September 22, 2018 Report Share Posted September 22, 2018 I usually hunt on 14 mag then turn it up or down if and when needed.i would never buy a fixed power scope again. I've owned S&B's Swarovski's Mk4 leupolds but now i own 2 x S111 sightrons and a Mk4 that must say something ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No i deer Posted September 22, 2018 Report Share Posted September 22, 2018 14 hours ago, Nick 53 said: In Basc the deer department recommended no more than 6x or fixed power as shooting in forestry you didn’t need high power scopes . if you was shooting long range and had the land and a good safe back stop then a variable scope would be fine. This applied when they were using old fashioned equipment.jeez they need to move with the times.shooting red deer that have a huge kill zone.the kill zone for a munty is probaly 80 percent smaller where shot placement would be better done with higher precission with higher magnification scope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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