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Out of interest, has anybody been using ffs ? Seems well regarded with the cousins, although rather expensive.

I must admit I do like the idea of using the Trimble to run the software ...mobile phones have terrible battery life and are rather fragile. I just wonder given its cost , how it actually stacks upto Strellok pro for example?

Anybody have any insights?

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FFS and Coldbore are probably the two best options if you are into ELR shooting. Consensus is that they are in a league of their own over point mass solutions like AB, Strelok etc if you are going out to extreme distance and pushing the boundaries. On a .308 to 1,000 yards or so for example you are not really going to see the difference so you are paying an awful lot if you are just looking for an alternative platform to run a solver on. 

If money is no issue and you want the best then you won’t go wrong with one of these two. 

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TJC

re. Cold Bore and FFS - they both seem to run in the field on the Windows Mobile operating system which has put me off when I looked previously as it is an obsolete OS - or am I missing something?

T

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I think if you are into ELR then putting up with a Windows OS comes with the territory. 

I run the AB Kestrel which like many of the apps will get you on target if you aren’t pushing the boundaries and I use window based products on a PC at home for analysis/insight/a bit like how guys would use Quickload. 

I would def buy an IOS based version but it doesn’t seem to be on the agenda. 

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1 hour ago, terryh said:

TJC

re. Cold Bore and FFS - they both seem to run in the field on the Windows Mobile operating system which has put me off when I looked previously as it is an obsolete OS - or am I missing something?

T

Apparently the obsolete os is a bonus .According to the users ,as its old all of the faults have been worked out .The other bonus is ,there's no annoying updates every five minutes to throw a spanner into a system that is working.

According to the users in USA the Trimble is totally bomb proof.

I do believe a lot of courier type company's use them

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Agreed. It’s amazing software and hardware. Expensive but just about the best there is. 

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I have no issues dropping £ onto a product/item, it is the fact of doing so to try something out, especially to do so knowingly with an unsupported/obsolete  OS, does not add up.

might be able to borrow a Trimble thru work, if so then will look at buying the product(s)

T

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1 hour ago, terryh said:

I have no issues dropping £ onto a product/item, it is the fact of doing so to try something out, especially to do so knowingly with an unsupported/obsolete  OS, does not add up.

might be able to borrow a Trimble thru work, if so then will look at buying the product(s)

T

Terry

Theres probably hundreds of thousands of Trimbles in use .As said ,all the couriers/ Royal Mail etc use them.I think it's a case of "if it ain't broke don't fix it"!

Only place I have seen in Europe providing ffs is in Italy .The website is on ffs home page.At least that means no import duty ! ?

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Just resurecting this thread.

 

 

Is anyone out there using Coldbore (Patagonia) and Handheld (Rugged) PDA

 

If so what PDA 

How is the system stacking up against similar "named well advertised " software solutions

 

 

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I use FFS with a trimble.  Obsolete OS is no issue, it works so no need to update it

FFS does all you need and more

 

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Ok thank you

 

I had some strange solutions on my own well used app (Bulketflight) last time I was shooting beyond 1000 with the 338 and wondered about changing to handheld Pda / coldbore And have dedicated device rather than a do all master of none I phone 

I used to run exbal on a Pda years ago - May still have the Pda somewhere 😂

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54 minutes ago, Ronin said:

Ok thank you

 

I had some strange solutions on my own well used app (Bulketflight) last time I was shooting beyond 1000 with the 338 and wondered about changing to handheld Pda / coldbore And have dedicated device rather than a do all master of none I phone 

I used to run exbal on a Pda years ago - May still have the Pda somewhere 😂

Didnt someone once say “jedi use charts”??

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Whixh is a pity as a hard copy non electronic solution was fabulous to work with and just plain worked 

 

Used the Jedi system for first round v bull (witnessed) at 1100 yds one year (when he allowed mere mortals to have them )

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Ffs on the Trimble for me, it's been excellent out to 1 mile so far 🙂

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Has anyone carried out side by side comparisons i.e. they were shooting with friends who were using other systems/Apps, compared outputs for the same conditions and output values vs actual adjustments required.

Anyone use/used TraSol

Just thinking on 'which app' and kit to use it on myself.

T

 

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BulletFlight and I Snipe very similar  solitions

 

ive never had problems with BF but had some unexplainable misses beyond 1k with a rifle that I know will hold Fig 11 to 1600 mtrs 

 

It may have been user error (me) as I was juggling multi questions from guys beside me on the day I was shooting

 

I read that the Patagonia programme is excellent for ELR and having had odd results from current system wondered about this as an alternative 

 

Only side by side comparisons I have were with BF / Lapua program and I snipe all have similar solutions to the three of us who were running 6.5 Lapua and 123 scenars on the day

 

Most missed I think were environmental pickups / drop offs rather than failures in system or data entry 

 

Havent properly tested BF much beyond 1200 

 

 

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