Private Marker Posted November 6, 2019 Report Share Posted November 6, 2019 On 11/4/2019 at 7:37 PM, No i deer said: They are an unofficial couple 😂 Will there be a wedding?  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No i deer Posted November 6, 2019 Report Share Posted November 6, 2019 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Private Marker Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 Just wondered if I would get an invite...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Private Marker Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 For the first time since I started, I don't have anything for the weekend. If anyone needs a marker let me know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Private Marker Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 Well here'sa thing. I always thought private markers  (and those that organise them) were supposed to be the best  of the best, more reliable than most. Last week I was proved wrong. I had a call from one person who had given me work before. He in turn had been called by someone who was trying to fill a multi marker shoot. He offered me three half days and I accepted two, as one morning I was already booked by the NRA. He was OK with that.  Oh this was only two days away, unusually short notice for private work. Then he texted back to say maybe the second morning was to be covered by someone else  and he would let me know. By then I had clocked off the NRA. Despite trying to get confirmation one way or another, nothing. Would it have killed him to just let me know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John MH Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 No, but there you go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Private Marker Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 It's been dead for a while, but starting to pick up now. I have to say though there seems to be a disturbing push, on the part of Bisley, towards the electronic targets. I've even had one very large club, who book several times a month telling me the dates they wanted there's no manual targets available. In May! Has anyone else noticed this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris-NZ Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 Why is a push for electronic targets "disturbing"? I shot a long time with manual marking and a bad marker is both infuriating and unfair. Having used electronic targets for a good five years, I'd be very unhappy to go back to manual marking.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Private Marker Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 I dunno, customer service? From a purely business point of view isn't the customer always right? For as many shooters that hate poor markers there's as many that wouldn't touch electronic targets. There should at least be a choice. If you are happy with the electronic targets that's great. Have to say though I don't think you have had good markers in the past.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunc Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 4 hours ago, Chris-NZ said: Why is a push for electronic targets "disturbing"? ......  Because when I pass the Kongsberg targets on Century at the weekend, with them having been shot at all week, it's interesting to see where the centre of the mass of shots seems to be. Not always in the centre of the bull. The key part of getting them (electronics) correct is making sure that the black centres are pasted exactly in the 'centre' of the target sensors. Otherwise they are only of use for grouping and the 'zero' should be taken with a pinch of salt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Private Marker Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 Dunc I never thought of it like that. The target faces aren't charged with every use, only when they are falling apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunc Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, Private Marker said: Dunc I never thought of it like that. The target faces aren't charged with every use, only when they are falling apart. Gary, I shot on them over a year ago and 'discovered' my zero had shifted (at 100) by about 1.5" both right and up. Fortunately I was confident in my zero and as a mate was shooting on the target near me, I tried it on his and it was spot on. Back to mine, it was 1.5" up and right again. Chatting to one of the lads in the range shed and I realised where the issue was.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy W Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Dunc said: Gary, I shot on them over a year ago and 'discovered' my zero had shifted (at 100) by about 1.5" both right and up. Fortunately I was confident in my zero and as a mate was shooting on the target near me, I tried it on his and it was spot on. Back to mine, it was 1.5" up and right again. Chatting to one of the lads in the range shed and I realised where the issue was.... I've asked the Range Office, the online NRA social media people and those setting up the target screens exactly how they guarantee that the target is central to the sensors. They either stare blankly, ignore you or just say 'they are'. They won't accept there can be an error for some reason. Having seen how blase the Target Shed are at pasting up targets, I doubt that any of them are 100% central. As Dunc says, ok for grouping practice, or scoring if you accept that your sights might not be set correctly afterwards. Use them for zeroing? .......................I wouldn't.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popsbengo Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 The Zero Range is available for the purpose of zeroing - isn't that a better bet? Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunc Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 16 minutes ago, Popsbengo said: The Zero Range is available for the purpose of zeroing - isn't that a better bet?  No. In my case, I need a precise 100 yd zero (with a 600/1,000 zero) to set up Strelok to take me out to 1400 yds + Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattnall Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 54 minutes ago, Popsbengo said: The Zero Range is available for the purpose of zeroing - isn't that a better bet? Â The zero range is good to 'get you on target' but not much else. The only way to get a proper zero on the range is to actually shoot that range. A small error in sight picture or zero might not show up at 70-odd feet but at 1000yards it could be a huge error, but you know that I'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popsbengo Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 33 minutes ago, Dunc said: No. In my case, I need a precise 100 yd zero (with a 600/1,000 zero) to set up Strelok to take me out to 1400 yds + Interesting.  I just set up "Shooter" with 100yd zero and dialled 1400yds (.308 155) and got 81.7moa.  Reset the zero to 75yds and got = 81.7moa ! The trajectory between 75 and 100yds has no appreciable difference for .308 at 2850 fps.  It isn't a calculation error as far as I can see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popsbengo Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mattnall said: The zero range is good to 'get you on target' but not much else. The only way to get a proper zero on the range is to actually shoot that range. A small error in sight picture or zero might not show up at 70-odd feet but at 1000yards it could be a huge error, but you know that I'm sure. 75m (82yds) Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy W Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, Popsbengo said: Interesting.  I just set up "Shooter" with 100yd zero and dialled 1400yds (.308 155) and got 81.7moa.  Reset the zero to 75yds and got = 81.7moa ! The trajectory between 75 and 100yds has no appreciable difference for .308 at 2850 fps.  It isn't a calculation error as far as I can see The zero range is 71 'FEET', your calculations are 75 YARDS  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattnall Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 Just now, Popsbengo said: 75m (82yds) Â The zero range is 71'7" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popsbengo Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mattnall said: The zero range is 71'7" A-ha ! Â I was reading "Butt Zero" as the zeroing range - doh. Â My apologies and I concur that 71' is no use to man nor beast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattnall Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 Just found this old thread: Old Thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Private Marker Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 Hmmmm, there's a suspicion that Bisley are only booking the young markers because they are cheaper than those over 25. All I can say for sure is they aren't booking the older markers. If you don't want a bored teenager on your target, best book a private marker..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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