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Treeborne corvids: 12ftlb .177/.22 or 25ftlb .22 Air rifle?

Air Rifles for Treeborne Corvids  

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  1. 1. Were FACs not required for air rifles over 12ftlb in UK, would you choose an air rifle below or above 12ftlbs?

    • I'd choose sub 12ftlb, even if something more powerful didn't need a FAC.
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    • If it didn't need a FAC, I'd choose more than 12ftlb.
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  2. 2. Taking account of the difference in performance, and the difference in 'legislative hassle' between FAC and non FAC air rifles, would you choose a 12ftlb .177/.22 or a 25ftlb .22 for treeborne corvids?

    • For treeborne corvids, I'd choose a sub 12ftlb .177
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    • For treebone corvids, I'd choose a sub 12ftlb .22
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    • For treeborne corvids, the benefits of a 25ftlb air rifle outweigh the FAC hassles.
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As per the poll, grateful for thoughts.

 

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Corvids are clever Fe@k@rs
They always sit out of range regardless if you brought a 12ft/lb air rifle or a .22 rimfire...
I must carry my .204 too next time :-)

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Corvids are clever Fe@k@rs

They always sit out of range regardless if you brought a 12ft/lb air rifle or a .22 rimfire...

I must carry my .204 too next time :-)

 

I'm shooting up in the air - it needs to be a pellet gun, for my purposes :)

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They're tough to kill - I've given up in the past on Crows/Jays/Magpies where I couldn't safely use .22 rimfire. I'd say you'd be better safety-wise with a shotgun.

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Any one of the options will kill cleanly given good pellet placement and sensible ranges 40/55 y for the sub 12.ive used them all over the years but fac air makes it so much easier ,using a .25 running at 48 ftlb plenty of knock down power and can put pellet on pellet at 40 y with ease

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I'm shooting up in the air - it needs to be a pellet gun, for my purposes :)

ah

Then u need a 12g :-)

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They're tough to kill - I've given up in the past on Crows/Jays/Magpies where I couldn't safely use .22 rimfire. I'd say you'd be better safety-wise with a shotgun.

 

 

Agree'd, welly them with a shotgun.

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I've used an fac air rifle for years on corvids in trees.very effective way to get rid of them. Me and the brother used to wait on them coming into roost of an evening. You will always get the largest individual , who comes in first to check things are safe for the rest of them. If you shoot and miss it you won't see the rest of them.Once it gets almost dark they won't fly very far when they hear a shot being fired.Me and the brother shot 34 grey back crows in the space of 2 hours. I had a 14 ft/lb 177 daystate and he had a 30ft/lb .22. If you can hit them cleanly in the head with low powered air rifle they die instantly. With the fac air rifle anywhere from the chest up and they are a goner. I would use an fac air rifle for the purpose. As soon as you fire a shotgun they won't come anywhere near you. Very effective way to get rid of them and great fun to be had doing it imho.

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Moderated .410 then?

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ah

Then u need a 12g :-)

I've shot way more corvids of all varieties with a shotgun, decoys and a hide set-up than I've every shot with any rifle.

Good concealment and perfectly still until time to shoot. Not a sucking eggs comment, just my observations. I'm always amazed at how far away a corvid can see such a slight movement even in a good hide.

 

Having said that, I love the odd lazy day sat in my xtrail with the radio on low on the outskirts of the farm buildings, popping off corvids with my Daystate Air Ranger, in .25 cal running around 44 ft/lb's. They always seem less suspicious around the buildings.

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Fac airguns are brilliant...if you have the use for it, same as anything.

 

I'm a firm believer there is a place for them, their so useful and still quiet. For wot it's worth I think a fac registered and then tuned air arms s410 classic is more useable than a factory fac one...they are soooo long, and wot you lose by de-valuing a standard one by registering it you save by spending less in the first place. Yes they give a few less shots but they are so much easier to wield around whether it be when walking, in a wood or in a vehicle

 

Just my experience

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I've shot them with a sub 12 lbs-ft .22 at dusk as they roost and had some success. A well moderated air rifle is s good way of knocking them down and the sub 12 is just that little bit quieter than the higher energy ones. Also set up a hide on the edge of a wood and had them with shotguns as they come into roost. This was by far the more effective method as loads were shot in the space of an hour or two. For problematical crow problems, a Larsen trap I think is the most effective means of controlling Corvid numbers though.

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Only Just seen this, i do the same kind of thing and i use 2 Fac air rifles a Theoben Rapid mk2 .20 rated at 28 ft lbs Pigeons crows magpies etc, i'm getting about 100 shots @ full power with this and it's spot on for most situations, the other one i have is a FX Bobcat .30 rated @ 77 ft lbs with 46gr pellets or 85 ft lbs with 50 pellet, but you need to be careful with this and i only use it in larger trees where you can guarantee a good back stop, but just shoot at the biggest part and they come down no problem.

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Try a 12 ftlb and a fac 30 ftlb-40 ftlb in 22 with a 16g pellet.

As you have a FAC adding a FAC Airgun should be no problem.

Sub 12ftlb go with .177 or .20 if you are shooting over 30y as the .22 will start to fall dramatically after this range & it is affected by cross wind much more.

Granted a FAC PCP will have a much less shot count but when do you need 80 to 300 shots.

Another plus to FAC is that you can shoot a crow at 70-80y compared to a 12ftlb 35-50y.

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Just re-read the poll result at the head of this thread. A pretty clear consensus in favour of the more powerful air rifle option for treeborne corvids - just had a .25 Air Rifle slot added. Now to find something... going to struggle, cos almost all the options are just too objectionally fugly to actually be seen with!

(I'm really trying to like BSA and, in particular, the R10, but only their mother could love the way they look. I cannot get my head around the shocking aesthetics of so many production air rifle designs!)20171125_074123.thumb.png.437c741d643f971fe491b81daaa8a04d.png

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There are much better Fac pcp,s out there ,

my top pick would be 

fx        I have the impact and it’s a belting gun,a caliber change takes two mins and a power change seconds look at teds holdover on YouTube or Matt doubters Chanel airarms hunting for more info on the fx and other fac guns 

kalibregun cricket   Shot them not great build quality imo but powerful and accurate

Edgun         As above 

theoben  Rapid      Had loads easy to work on but you will have to buy a used one they stopped making them awhile ago 

daystate airwolf or  air ranger  had both of theses and several other I would pick one of the electronic ones as power gannbe turned up and down at will

gunpower stealth great if you like taking things to bits more than shooting it and it’s only single shot .

 

 

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