lapua Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 Gents, i have a lovely macmillan A3 remmy short action stock i want to build on. Must be munti legal, so .22 and above. Whats the fastest/flattest calibre i can choise? 50gn bullet. 24" barrel. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matchking Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 Of the shelf .220 swift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matchking Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 22/243 middlestead. .22.250 AI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakeman Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 Why 'fastest'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveW Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 22-284 I know a man with a reamer..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapua Posted February 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 Why 'fastest'? Because i can and its one that i havent had! Had 22-250, .243, 22x47l, 6x47l. Midlife crisis kicking in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danpd Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 22/243 Middlestead or 22 x 47 Lapua Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapua Posted February 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 22-284 I know a man with a reamer..... Is that short action? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakeman Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 Because i can and its one that i havent had! Had 22-250, .243, 22x47l, 6x47l. Midlife crisis kicking in Could you really tell the difference which was the 'fastest' out of your listed?...without a chrony and, as a "fox snotter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuck Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 .22 Nosler just to be different, not the fastest but fast enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapua Posted February 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 Could you really tell the difference which was the 'fastest' out of your listed?...without a chrony and, as a "fox snotter? Could you really tell the difference which was the 'fastest' out of your listed?...without a chrony and, as a "fox snotter? I knew there were faster and i have a chrony. The .22x47 i had was only suited to very light bullets, was a shifty drifty little thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapua Posted February 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 22/243 Middlestead or 22 x 47 Lapua I had thought of middlestead. 50gn velocity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakeman Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 I knew there were faster and i have a chrony. The .22x47 i had was only suited to very light bullets, was a shifty drifty little thing! Any idea of what it chronied at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonl Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 Because i can and its one that i havent had! Had 22-250, .243, 22x47l, 6x47l. Midlife crisis kicking in What better reason can you have? Treat yourself to a right barrel burning laser. Let us know how fast you get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tackb Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 If your doing just because you can then go wild ! Say 300 wsm necked down to 224 and a fast gain twist barrel for the 80g Amax ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch_egg Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 If your doing just because you can then go wild ! Say 300 wsm necked down to 224 and a fast gain twist barrel for the 80g Amax ? OSOK has a 6mmWSM I hope he offers his experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapua Posted February 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 Any idea of what it chronied at? 4520 with 30gn bullets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caerhays sniper Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 Friend of mine has just had his AI barrelled in 22-243 middlestead to run the 53vmax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrumbag Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 5.6x57 if you can strech it to that length Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbal Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 Lapua, Some of the rather rather nice options suggested /likely to be are not short action compatible-and you are starting from such a stock;probaly not possible to modify either? They are also arguably not absolutey top whack-though differences at this level are pretty thin,and individual rifles might be a factor. Sometimes exotica/challenges appeal-but these six are again not SA,but all saami loads-so give a good idea of safe performance ,no doubt enhanceable: 1943 220 Weatherby Rocket 55@ 3860fps 1998 224 Texas Trophy Hunter (6mm Rem case) 55@ 3840fps 1978 22 CHeetah (308 Rem BR case,with small primer!) 55@ 4090 1964 22 Clark (257 necked,80@3500;55 should make 3800) 1964 5.56x57 RWS 55@3800 1955 243win 55@3910 ....22 MIddlested is similar,known and available without much fuss. 1937 5.6x61 Vom Hofe Super Express(its really 228cal) 70@3708 and I'm not giving a 55 MV.....!! If it must be S/A,it will be very hard indeed to equal/better these (and the similar 22Swift etc)even with AckImp etc-the S/A compatible cases just lack capacity,but are nonetheless fine cartridgesThe 6x45 eg is the 223 necked up and gives 70@2900-fine small deer cartridge.The simple 243 w stands out as rather good,as a fox cartridge though,in the rem S/A -if 22,the 243 necked to 22MIddlestead sets a high bar.(is an Ack Imp really needed?) The 224 heavier bullets "need" the greater capacity-hence the cases used in most of the above wildcats. There is almost no detectable/significant 'minute of fox' advantage between most of the contenders; Seriously flat at 300y,a Lazzeron 6mm 85g is 4.6/6.3 Then Swift 50g is 4.8/9.3; 22 MIddlestead very similar,probably has a slight potential edge;223 50g is 6.8/11.4 the advantage is mainly in windage,and even less at shorter range,of course. The (very few) likes of the 223 Win Super Short Magnum ( 55@3850) are actually about a half inch shorter than 'standard' S/A,though 'fat',and such actions are available-whether a stock /compatible mod is possible etc...one for the gunsmith...along with,maybe a short PPC?-accuracy rather than fps though. ...hope something comes along...hard to see the Middlestead beaten significantly .... even if .not neccessarily sensible...just suitable and tasty !! :-) gbal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapua Posted February 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 5.6x57 if you can strech it to that length That would work, i have a spent case somewhere i was given by a client i guided, very good on roebucks so i am told. Very thick neck and brass is hard to come by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveW Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 Is that short action? Apologies I missed that in your original post, I never used the reamer. Just as you "A mid life crisis" that never happened. Good luck in your quest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermincinerator Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 22-250 AI. 52grn A-Max @ 4200fps and Sierra 40grn Blitzking @ 4890fps Ian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weejohn Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 What length of barrel is that with the 22-250 ai Ian ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapua Posted February 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 What length of barrel is that with the 22-250 ai Ian ? That does seem very respectable, my 26" hart 22-250 gave 3800fps with a 55btip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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