David Hancock Posted December 28, 2016 Report Share Posted December 28, 2016 To use a quote "I used to be decisive but now I'm not so sure". Believe you me, I have a spreadsheet on scopes vs cost vs functionality but . . . . . On a .308. - Tactical / varminting look and function - 1/4 clicks - MOA ret and turret - cannot get my head round MRAD. No number 4 or plex rets. BDC's are a no no as they are set up for a totally different rifle - sorry Minox ! - 15 x mag and up - 50/56 Obj - IL preferable To be used predominantly at 100 - 500 yards both hold over and dial up Also looking to book at WMS range next year and take out to 1000 yards which would be a rare outing but good learning. There is a nice Leup Mk 4 8.5-25x50 on OpticsWarehouse site for £995 with Mildot ret. 50% off. Are Leupolds so out of favour ? I run NF SHV's on my other rifles which I like but attract negative views. I previously had a NSX which was a lump, but good. I also have a 4-16x50 Hawke Sidewinder 10x Mil Dot for £359 which is stunning value for money and I have looked through a Swaro Z5 BT at £2540. It comes with a 1000 page instruction book ! Minox ?? Sightron ?? Delta ?? Swaro / March Leica / Kahles - outside my budge Schmidt - ?? IOR - fugly Vortex - no. Not until you invest in the Razor series Does not have to be new. Yes I've looked at Mcleos of Tain My thoughts . . . I want a Hawke Sidewinder for £1000 !!!!!! Is it that simple ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srvet Posted December 28, 2016 Report Share Posted December 28, 2016 I would wait for a S/h Schmidt and use the intervening time to save a few more pennies. There was a 4~16 pmii in macleods and there are a few 5-25 Schmidts around on the SD classifieds at the moment that would do the job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pork chop Posted December 28, 2016 Report Share Posted December 28, 2016 Personally got to be nightforce nxs for that money or a new sightron just as good glass as the nxs but not quite got the build quality but good enough. Both better than the leupolds I've had glass wise ,always found meopter good scopes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20series Posted December 28, 2016 Report Share Posted December 28, 2016 Sightron for that kind of money, I had a Leupold Mk4 and the eye relief changes with the magnification. I'd look at the 8-32x56 with MOA reticle. http://www.aimfieldsports.com/siiiss-8-32x56-lrmoa-147-p.asp HTH Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz6br Posted December 28, 2016 Report Share Posted December 28, 2016 Nightforce NXS One on here £900 a lot of scope for the money I use one myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuck Posted December 28, 2016 Report Share Posted December 28, 2016 Secondhand Zeiss 6-24x56 you'll get one of the older ones for a £1000 or maybe just over with a good choice of reticles.. superb scopes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhhudson Posted December 28, 2016 Report Share Posted December 28, 2016 Ill sell you a hawke sidewinder for £1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB1 Posted December 28, 2016 Report Share Posted December 28, 2016 Sightron 8-32×56 LRMOA So impressed I bought 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hancock Posted December 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2016 Mr Hudson Sir. You get the funny gong for 2016 LOL !!!!! Thank you other Gents. Keep going . . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onehole Posted December 28, 2016 Report Share Posted December 28, 2016 Well,,,fancy a wild card at a third of your budget? IOR 16x42 Tactical speak to me on PM,s if interested.........Regds D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sako 243 Posted December 28, 2016 Report Share Posted December 28, 2016 Ziess +1 great scope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalahari Posted December 28, 2016 Report Share Posted December 28, 2016 There is a S & B on the stalking directory that might suit you. May not have quite enough mag but only you can decide that. http://www.thestalkingdirectory.co.uk/showthread.php/129497-scope-and-mounts David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tikkat3rob Posted December 28, 2016 Report Share Posted December 28, 2016 i would also make sure to get a first focal plane scope if your wanting to do hold overs as going to max mag on a sfp scope will be far to magnified for quick target acquisition buy a vortex http://opticswarehouse.co.uk/product/vortex-viper-pst-6-24x50-ffp-riflescope/ it provides ffp for target aquisition which will really help theres nothing worse when using a sfp scope than wasting time by going to max mag to do a hold over and then losing the target also gives you everything else you want 1/4 clicks MOA ret and turret 24x mag 50 Obj illumanted or failing that buy something more expensive over 1000 that meets your requirements or buy something that does not meet your requirements fully for less and then come across problems i dont own a vortex nor sell them but ive seen through a few and for price point they are good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hancock Posted December 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2016 David - thank you. I would like more than 12 x Tikka Rob - I had a Vortex. The snap in / snap out eye relief was an issue. Much better suited to benchrest IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swagger700 Posted December 28, 2016 Report Share Posted December 28, 2016 I'm thinking same at moment will probably be another s/hand nxs .looked at a small pm 2 today and the quality stands out a mile ,worth considering the extra outlay Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 If your happy with your sidewinder why not have a look through the new 6-24x56 versions.....they are fabulous for the money Ive looked through the vortex and sightrons and really do like the no fuss appeal of the sightron. delta are on par with my bushy elite tactical, which again is a simple clear scope to use....top end mag does start to get a tad fussy and glare, but sticking my 6-24 sidewinder next to my bushy tac, lets just say the few hundred quid price difference is very difficult to justify. if I had a grand of someone else's money to spend I would like a sightron, but could never justify the gains over scopes I have. That's purely my 2p worth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 HI David, Personally I would go for the Bushnell DMR or ERS 3-21x50. See video by Rich Utting - link at bottom of post. unfortunately think they are in MIL/red only - so if that's a deal breaker ,,, Hay-Ho http://opticswarehouse.co.uk/product/bushnell-elite-tactical-ers-3-5-21x50-g2-zs-riflescope/ This was going to be my next scope after comparing it to several others including the Sightron - NF NXS and IOR 6-24. It is simply built solid like a NF - but with FAR better optics , which IMO let the NXS scopes down for their price. I ended up getting a Kahles K6-24x56i - My pal Sisnipe tested the Bushnell 3-21 for over a month and confirmed that it was superior to his S3 in virtually every aspect. Both of us were amazed how good theses Bushys are... they are NOT the 6500 in another form - optics are excellent. I don't often find myself completely agreeing with all of Rich Uttings reviews - however he has this one bang on IMO. I use Kahles and Zeiss Victory's scopes, and you have to spend a lot more over the Bushnell ( which I did - to get anything better) Review HERE >>>>>> https://youtu.be/U_EAo4Pij80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geek Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 Sightron for that kind of money, I had a Leupold Mk4 and the eye relief changes with the magnification. I'd look at the 8-32x56 with MOA reticle. http://www.aimfieldsports.com/siiiss-8-32x56-lrmoa-147-p.asp HTH Alan I agree, I have just purchased such a scope for my Ruger PR in 6.5CM: you won't be disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hancock Posted December 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 Hi Sherlock, thanks for the input. The Bushnells have a great spec but I would have to get my head around Mils. I saw a new Minox ZX5i yesterday (in a plex ret) The glass was stunning. They come in a BDC - which is not MOA ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hancock Posted December 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 Thank you Alan and Geek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geek Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 Thank you Alan and Geek Speak to Brian or Simon at Fox Firearms (http://www.foxfirearmsuk.com), you should get a good price. I took the advice of The Gun Pimp (on here), when purchasing a scope for my Ruger PR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalahari Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 ??????? http://www.thestalkingdirectory.co.uk/showthread.php/129494-Kahles-6-24-Delta-Titanium-2-5-15-and-Pulsar-N870LRF David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James 1 Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 Secondhand Zeiss 6-24x56 you'll get one of the older ones for a £1000 or maybe just over with a good choice of reticles.. superb scopes I wouldn't sell my Zeiss victory 6-24x56fl for £1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoEntry Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 Minox ZX 5-25x56. I really like mine. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuck Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 I wouldn't sell my Zeiss victory 6-24x56fl for £1000 Well when I sold mine it was the older version and there were a few floating around the £1000 mark. I sold mine for £1050 for that money no doubt the best scope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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