Birleyshooter Posted August 2, 2016 Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 Dear All, I always thought my moderator a SAK was pretty good, until I was next to a chap who had a very quite moderator. Anyway, I was going to ask for some recommendations for my 22LR Annie 1417. Then I got to thinking are are a few variables, and I don't really want to get into the science of measurements because that is also fraught with difficulties (equipment, methods etc) So I'm asking you all to please subjectively rate and comment back to me using the following info: A= Moderator used B= Barrel length C= Ammo used D= Effectiveness subjectively measured on the following scale (I just invented) 1= No good does not really suppress noticeably 3= Muzzle report reduced somewhat but still loud 5=I can clearly hear a muzzle report but it very much reduced 7= I can hear a small but noticeable muzzle report / sound 9= I can only just perceive a very slight muzzle report / sound 10= I can only hear the rifle firing pin / mech and the round striking the target So in my case A=SAK, B=14inch, C=CCIHP Subs, D=7 Once I get a few results I will tabulate them. Only 22LR please. Many thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birleyshooter Posted August 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 BUMP - lets not be shy!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer7 Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 I've never really noticed a big difference between rimfire moderators, I use a SAK, Sako and Parker Hale on different rifles. Personally I find there is much more of a difference swapping between different subsonic ammunition, RWS for example is notably slower than CCI Subsonic and Eley Match and I can hear the difference in any of my rifles. Likewise bolt actions are quieter than a semi-auto with no clatter from the bolt. Also I find a longer barrel quieter than a short barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalahari Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 A longer/shorter barrel makes a big difference as well. The inverse square law rules! David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 One thing I decided a long time ago was not to waste any of my life trying to find the ultimate .22LR sound moderator. Anything from a 500ml coke bottle works more than well enough for the application of the round and rifle. It amazes me to what degree people will look for a .22LR mod that is quieter than the last one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhhudson Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 A-SAK B-16" C-Rws subsonic D-9 Cz 455 varmint 16" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birleyshooter Posted August 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 A longer/shorter barrel makes a big difference as well. The inverse square law rules! David. Ok Dave so score it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birleyshooter Posted August 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 It's simples chaps, just score you mod. Thanks for the comments on barrel length and ammo, that's why I have asked for that info. Just score even if it a coke can! Thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCetrizine Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 A-SAK B-16" C-CCI Mini Mag D-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birleyshooter Posted August 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 two results already - keep it coming... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1066 Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 Two rifles, two different moderators. Parker Hale - good solid moderator, about 7 on sound. Makes my semi-auto Voere extra long. No idea of barrel length but you could use it as a crutch if you broke your leg. SAK - Works OK although it doesn't seem to register on the barrel as neatly as the PH. Sound 5-6. Shorter than the PH and easier to strip and clean. I use it mostly on my 18" barrel Finnfire but I do mix and match - I always use a moderator in the field and mostly Eley HP subs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 Dear All, I always thought my moderator a SAK was pretty good, until I was next to a chap who had a very quite moderator. Anyway, I was going to ask for some recommendations for my 22LR Annie 1417. Then I got to thinking are are a few variables, and I don't really want to get into the science of measurements because that is also fraught with difficulties (equipment, methods etc) So I'm asking you all to please subjectively rate and comment back to me using the following info: A= Moderator used B= Barrel length C= Ammo used D= Effectiveness subjectively measured on the following scale (I just invented) 1= No good does not really suppress noticeably 3= Muzzle report reduced somewhat but still loud 5=I can clearly hear a muzzle report but it very much reduced 7= I can hear a small but noticeable muzzle report / sound 9= I can only just perceive a very slight muzzle report / sound 10= I can only hear the rifle firing pin / mech and the round striking the target So in my case A=SAK, B=14inch, C=CCIHP Subs, D=7 Once I get a few results I will tabulate them. Only 22LR please. Many thanks in advance. Sak 18" SK Std Plus 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 A-PH MMIB-12.5"C-CCI HP SubsD-6 I have quieter Sound mods however the rifle will not cycle with them so the PH MMI is a good compromise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushdog Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 Rifle 1 CZ455 A SAK B 20" C Winchester 42gn subs D 7 Rifle 2 Sig 522 (Semi-auto) A SAK B16" C CCI Subsonic D 5 (what happened to 6?) but mostly action noise in fairness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palo Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 A a-tec rimfire B 20 C eley subsonic D 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drum Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 A sak B 18 C rws subs D 9. A sak B 16 C rws hv D 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trucraft Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 A, parkerhale B,14" C, winchester X D, 6 A, Swift Stumpy B, 16" C, Eley sub's D,7 Though the sound difference is minimal between the two I think the Swift has the edge and is lighter and looks great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveW Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 A= Moderator used B= Barrel length C= Ammo used D= Effectiveness subjectively measured on the following scale (I just invented) 1= No good does not really suppress noticeably 3= Muzzle report reduced somewhat but still loud 5=I can clearly hear a muzzle report but it very much reduced 7= I can hear a small but noticeable muzzle report / sound 9= I can only just perceive a very slight muzzle report / sound 10= I can only hear the rifle firing pin / mech and the round striking the target A - Sak. B - 14" C- CCI HP Sub Sonic. D - 7 A - Husher one B - 16" C - CCI Mini Mag D - 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birleyshooter Posted August 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 Great stuff guys - I m surprised no 10's yet... Anyway keep it coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 Great stuff guys - I m surprised no 10's yet... Anyway keep it coming. I've only ever heard (not heard!) a 10 with a real deLisle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCetrizine Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 The only time I've not really heard anything but the firing pin was when I had a box of Aguila Colibri which are a 20gn subsonic with no powder, just the primer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morse Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 A= SAK B= 16" C= Eley Subs D= 5 Agree with the DeLisle comment by brown dog. I shot one at Minsterly Ranges 15yrs ago and very very very quiet. I can imagine very effective for what they were designed for!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bewsh Posted August 26, 2016 Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 A - Weirauch HWH https://www.fishingmegastore.com/weihrauch-hwhe-silencer-12-unf~14254.html B - 12.5" C - RWS or Win Subs D - 7 or 9 somewhere between "clearly audible/noticeable" and "only just perceptible" depending on environment Have used a two kinds of SAK, a PH, a no name special and a PES T12 Scout..... This is by far the quietest I have used and its 110 grams! I have a small sound meter if anyone fancies recording actual footage and result of unmoderated and moderated reports for a more objective comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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