pow1 Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 Hobbit, Have you tested any yet as those are some of what im intending to use. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbit Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 not yet - I have loaded up the berger 140s hybrids with a 'ladder' of rs62 charges - will do same with Lapua 139s and get them tested at bisley - will post an update when done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cienfuegos Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 RS40 es demasiado rápido para quemar 260 Rem y 6.5 Creedmoor que necesitan polvos alrededor de 4350 velocidades de grabación - por lo que los tres 4350s (i / c Lovex SO70), RS60 / 62, IMR-4350/4451; H4350 / 414; Viht N150 / 550/160. RS40 es la versión de cartucho del propulsor utilizado en el cartucho suizo de 5,6 mm Gewehr Patrone 90, (GP 90), su toma en la pesada más tarde (63gn en forma suiza) bullet 5.56X45mm Nato redondo con el que es intercambiable. Proporcionará velocidades muy altas en .308 Gane con balas de clase 155gn, pero no es tan adecuado para balas más pesadas en el cartucho como RS50 y RS52. And for a tube 24 "of 6.5 Creedmor, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 Cienfuegos....no es probable que va a obtener una contesta a preguntas escribido en espanol. Puede traducirlos a ingles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BERGEON Posted August 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 Cienfuegos....no es probable que va a obtener una contesta a preguntas escribido en espanol. Puede traducirlos a ingles? Cienfuegos you can use this tatuctor : https://www.bing.com/translator/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pow1 Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 Well, i have the gun now! Rs62, 139 scenars Lapua palma brass and magnum primers! Now i need to start making some loads and get hold of a chrono! Will update over the coming months! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cienfuegos Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 Cienfuegos....no es probable que va a obtener una contesta a preguntas escribido en espanol. Puede traducirlos a ingles? Gracias, pensaba que el Crome lo traduce por mi... igual que hago yo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cienfuegos Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 Cienfuegos you can use this tatuctor : https://www.bing.com/translator/ Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BERGEON Posted August 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 Well, i have the gun now! Rs62, 139 scenars Lapua palma brass and magnum primers! Now i need to start making some loads and get hold of a chrono! Will update over the coming months! Hi pow1, I very interesting about your tests with RS62-139 gr Scenar using LAPUA Brass (SR) with velocity! Because I tested this same components exept the brass, I used Norma Brass (LR) ... I ask me if the load will be higther or less with using LR or SR for a same velocity??? A+ Laurent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BERGEON Posted August 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 Hello I always think (perhaps is not true !) to Long Range Shooting the better results can made with an Heavier bullet (High BC) run with a high velocity for this we necessary to use a slow powder to produce high velocity without max presure. Well for my 6.5 Creedmoor for a LR load, I look about the HORNADY 147 gr ELD-Match (#26333)…In my RPR's barrel 1:8" After lookin those tow link : https://press.hornady.com/assets/site/hornady/files/load-data/6-5-creedmoor-147gr-data.pdf http://www.wwpowder.com/PDF/Burn%20Rates%20-%202015-2016.pdf I think I’ll choose the N560 to run this 147 gr! Is it a good idea , can I have your opinion about my nexts choices and tests ? A+ Laurent. PS : Where I find this Hornady 147 gr ELD-Match in UK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 I certainly find N560 good in 260 Rem with 140g Bergers and 30 inch barrel but have not tried anything heavier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo999 Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 not yet - I have loaded up the berger 140s hybrids with a 'ladder' of rs62 charges - will do same with Lapua 139s and get them tested at bisley - will post an update when done Interested to see if you have any results for this test as I'm about to start working with RS62 for the first time with the 139gr Lapua bullet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BERGEON Posted September 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Here my new components for load test! A+ Laurent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cienfuegos Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Ver Imagen: http://s2.subirimagenes.com/fotos/previo/thump_9800265rs52.jpg RS52 / 37.5 / 880 ms/ barrel 28" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaz Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Is anyone else using RS 52 under 130gr bullets in their Creedmoor? I'm having good results with TMK's with both accuracy and velocity. Hi Charlts. Could you give me some data? I'm about to to go down the Creedmoor route and i'm unsure what powder to go for. Due to the pathetic supply chain some years back, i moved over to Viht for all my reloading and have not been disappointed. But it doesn't appear much in my Lee 2nd Edition loading manual with regard to the creedmoor..... Yet Viht say N135 is ok for the light 6.5 rounds, as in 100 grain. But there's nothing with regard to the 139 Scenar?? Maybe Viht N140 or N150?? Cheers Chaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VarmLR Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Hi Charlts. Could you give me some data? I'm about to to go down the Creedmoor route and i'm unsure what powder to go for. Due to the pathetic supply chain some years back, i moved over to Viht for all my reloading and have not been disappointed. But it doesn't appear much in my Lee 2nd Edition loading manual with regard to the creedmoor..... Yet Viht say N135 is ok for the light 6.5 rounds, as in 100 grain. But there's nothing with regard to the 139 Scenar?? Maybe Viht N140 or N150?? Cheers Chaz Chaz, if it's any help, I know a few people loading Vhit for CM homeloads and using 139 Scenars or 123gr pills. They're using N160 for these. Personally, if sticking to Vhit and loading for the lighter 100gr pills, I'd use N140, but would probably look at N160 for bullets up to 140gr. For the 6.5 heavies, N165 may be the better one but I haven't seen any results for that yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaz Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Chaz, if it's any help, I know a few people loading Vhit for CM homeloads and using 139 Scenars or 123gr pills. They're using N160 for these. Personally, if sticking to Vhit and loading for the lighter 100gr pills, I'd use N140, but would probably look at N160 for bullets up to 140gr. For the 6.5 heavies, N165 may be the better one but I haven't seen any results for that yet. Cheers VarmLR. Would N165 be a bit slow on the burn rate for 139 Senars? To be honest i was going to give N135 a go for the 100 grain hunter loads, and go from there?? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VarmLR Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 I guess whether N165 would be suitable depends on barrel length. It'd probably be ok for longer barrels of say 30 inches but due to the full (compressed) case with 139/140 bullets to get anywhere near the velocities needed, N160 or even N150 would be better, especially in shorter barrels, between say 22 and 26 inch. N135 burn rate looks ok for the 100gr pills and should work well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeman Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Chaz/VarmLR, N165 would definitely be too slow, I'm using N160 with Berger 140vld's and with the boattail/bullet shank around 25 thou above the shoulder/neck junction I'm slightly compressed. Velocities are right around 2900fps from a 30" barrel. I also tried N550 and achieved the same speed with 3.5gn less powder, and carried on up by a grain or two but accuracy declined. That was with Lapua cases and CCI 450 primers. My opinion would be that N135 would be too fast, I personally wouldn't use anything faster than N150 even with the lighter bullets but if you already have some, worth a try. Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VarmLR Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 Chaz/VarmLR, N165 would definitely be too slow, I'm using N160 with Berger 140vld's and with the boattail/bullet shank around 25 thou above the shoulder/neck junction I'm slightly compressed. Velocities are right around 2900fps from a 30" barrel. I also tried N550 and achieved the same speed with 3.5gn less powder, and carried on up by a grain or two but accuracy declined. That was with Lapua cases and CCI 450 primers. My opinion would be that N135 would be too fast, I personally wouldn't use anything faster than N150 even with the lighter bullets but if you already have some, worth a try. Richard Yes, just realised that as Laurie and others have confirmed this on another thread. It would seem that N150 is far better suited to the 140's form shorter barrels. I must get round to buying QL as it would seem invaluable to help take the guesswork out of a lot of load development! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaz Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 I already have Viht in N135, so could try the hunting 100 grain heads with it. As for the 139 Scenar i think i'll get some N150.... Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BERGEON Posted October 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 Here my new components for load test! A+ Laurent Hello, I test this rounds the saturday 29 september in my RPR at 300 m : The best reload is this one (OAL = 2.920'', the bullet toutch the lands!) : (The X measure 1.97'') What do you thinck about this N560 for the 6.5Creedmoor with eavier bullet? A+Laurent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeman Posted October 11, 2017 Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 Laurent, If you mean the dotted line is the X ring, then the group is around 3.5", which would be unacceptable to me at 300m. Maybe you could try different seating depths in 5 thou increments starting at the lands or slightly into them and working back and see what that does to the groups. I would have said that N560 would be far too slow for the 6.5 Creedmoor but you seem to be getting pretty impressive speeds with the 147 grain bullet. I've been using N550 and N160 with Berger 140 VLD's and best accuracy was around 2900fps with both powders, although I'm not happy with the consistency so have also ordered some Hornady 147 ELD to try. Richard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BERGEON Posted February 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 On 10/11/2017 at 9:19 PM, Leeman said: Laurent, If you mean the dotted line is the X ring, then the group is around 3.5", which would be unacceptable to me at 300m. Maybe you could try different seating depths in 5 thou increments starting at the lands or slightly into them and working back and see what that does to the groups. I would have said that N560 would be far too slow for the 6.5 Creedmoor but you seem to be getting pretty impressive speeds with the 147 grain bullet. I've been using N550 and N160 with Berger 140 VLD's and best accuracy was around 2900fps with both powders, although I'm not happy with the consistency so have also ordered some Hornady 147 ELD to try. Richard. Hello Richard, Yes ou are in the right! The jump in my RPR work better again with my 147 gr ELD-Match - COAL =2.903'' (In single shot ) Here the result with the 147 gr + 47.2 gr N560 (my best load, but I dont know yet my velocity!!! : (yes the doting line is the X = 50 mm/1.97'') (the nine shoot ia annonced with a bad sigth in the target ... Now I will test the RS70 +147 gr with a slow powder (equivalent N165) ... With 46.3 gr the density load is over- max! (with an Vibrating load with electric toothbrush ) A+ Laurent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeman Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 Laurent, certainly an improvement with the different seating depth. I realised the figures on your loading box which I took to be velocity were seating depths,, so it would interesting to find out what speed you were getting with N560. Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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