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Whats the shortest an AR straightpull can be built legally for the UK , ie with 12" barrel and collapsible stock , can they be built close to the minimum OAL 24"?

I`m thinking one would be good for foxing out of the LR window along with a quad rail for NV and IR mounting .

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York Guns had one in around a year ago, the brand escapes me I think it was freedom arms or American Arms or something along those lines.

It was extremely short, it had an ASE Utra Jet-Z permanently fitted to the barrel which made it legal. I nearly bought it, a very, very smart and handy little gun that I would have used for foxing.

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York Guns had one in around a year ago, the brand escapes me I think it was freedom arms or American Arms or something along those lines.

It was extremely short, it had an ASE Utra Jet-Z permanently fitted to the barrel which made it legal. I nearly bought it, a very, very smart and handy little gun that I would have used for foxing.

If my sums are right, that would make it about a 6 inch barrel plus the welded Jet-Z in order to stay legal. Just as well there's a moderator!

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But as .300 said, can you not legally go shorter if you have a welded moderator or flash hider? Though personally, I think that 12" is plenty short enough for any practical purpose!

 

Correct

I have some 12 1/2" ones in the for sale section if you want to see what one looks like

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as you need to have the Stock/LOP set properly so you can aim it OAL when collapsed isn't quite so relevant tho Nice :)

 

My Rifle (Not a AR style) is a Bolt gun in a MDT chassis it has a 16.5" barrel and is still legal on OAL of 600mm when you take the Buffer tube off completely even without a MOD(or used a folding stock) so nothing behind the Pistol grip But tho easy to deploy would be difficult to aim and Shoot ....... (maybe easier or not on NVD as i have Wireless goggles so don't need to look directly thro the scope)

 

 

17HMR is a 14" barrel and when folded in its AICS is just over the 600mm min without the MOD

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This .300 Whisper is hot off the press this morning.

The barrel is 305mm and the rifle with stock removed is roughly 16 3/8" or 670mm

 

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Nice , so for the UK I guess the shortest feasible length is around 27"-28" with a collapsed stock.

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So it does seem the AR is the most realistic way to achieve a carbine/sub-carbine , AUG`s can be had down to the legal limit but as far as I know accuracy and triggers are questionable.

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So it does seem the AR is the most realistic way to achieve a carbine/sub-carbine , AUG`s can be had down to the legal limit but as far as I know accuracy and triggers are questionable.

 

Yes, I would agree with that

What are you trying to achieve?

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Yes, I would agree with that

What are you trying to achieve?

Trying to achieve ....

 

  • A foxing rifle that can be easily used out the window of a 4x4 , hence the shorter the better.
  • A rifle that can be upgraded relatively easily ie trigger kits and a big range of other off the shelf accessories+cheap mags
  • Ease of mounting NV and IR illuminator(s) so a quad rail fore end , also the option of iron sights if required.
  • Good choice of factory ammo(5.56/.223)
  • Something that will put up with few knocks when bounced around in the back of a 4x4
  • Something that sticks two fingers up to Mike "Belter" Yardley.
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Trying to achieve ....

 

  • A foxing rifle that can be easily used out the window of a 4x4 , hence the shorter the better.
  • A rifle that can be upgraded relatively easily ie trigger kits and a big range of other off the shelf accessories.
  • Ease of mounting NV and IR illuminator(s) so a quad rail fore end , also the option of iron sights if required.
  • Something that will put up with few knocks when bounced around in the back of a 4x4
  • Something that sticks two fingers up to Mike "Belter" Yardley.

 

 

 

As i say not an AR but you could do in black and you can remove the Buffer tube as it's not needed to operate unlike an AR

 

http://ukvarminting.com/forums/topic/30779-finally-got-my-traditional-stalking-rifle/

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Trying to achieve ....

 

  • A foxing rifle that can be easily used out the window of a 4x4 , hence the shorter the better.
  • A rifle that can be upgraded relatively easily ie trigger kits and a big range of other off the shelf accessories+cheap mags
  • Ease of mounting NV and IR illuminator(s) so a quad rail fore end , also the option of iron sights if required.
  • Good choice of factory ammo(5.56/.223)
  • Something that will put up with few knocks when bounced around in the back of a 4x4
  • Something that sticks two fingers up to Mike "Belter" Yardley.

 

 

Ideal

Here's a pic of the finished article

 

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