bradders Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 I do agree, but I's also like to point out what seems to be a slight misunderstanding regarding CSR. It's only in Service Optic and Iron sights classes that mag resting is permitted. In Practical Optic, anything goes as it's an open class. While it may be possible to mag rest these rifles, I would imagine that most will end up with a (spawn of Satan) Bipod and a variant of the Hubble telescope on them. I really can't see anyone shooting one nekkid (sans Bipod) or with a 4.5x scope in Service class. It would be great if they did though, coz after all it is in a service calibre. What it does do though is bring a good quality, reasonably priced and competition ready rifle to the market that will hopefully enable more people to take up CSR (the greatest shooting discipline around I might add) and struggle as we will, we will always find a way of fitting even more people on to the firing point, coz too many is never too many. ETA: It's not actually a struggle, it's a pleasure getting more and more shooters interested in what we do One day CSR will dominate the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 This is it. I dont believe that Ruger are pitching the 0.308 version as a long range rifle. In recent years there has been a growth in poplarity of short barreled 0.308 tactical rifles. Much of this is because US law enforcement has realised that most police use of precision rifles takes place at very short ranges. So they can take advantage of the lower weight and greater manoeuvrability of a shorter barrel, particularly when the velocity drop is insignificant at these ranges. There has been a similar thing going on in military circles, where for example the British Sharpshooter rifle has a 16 inch barrel. The FBI did a survey of all law enforcement firefights and rifle engagements across the USA many years ago and found the average LEA rifle 'target' distance was 57 metres. There have also been concerns about over-powerful and over-penetrating rounds in such short-distance engagements and collateral damage to property and innocent individuals, so there was widespread adoption of .223 Rem rifles to reduce retained energies. But 308 and other calibres do some jobs such as glass and other 'barrier' penetration better, so have been retained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cad Monkey Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 Well I've just had a call to say the one I have on order will be in the post either this afternoon or Monday It's a .308 BTW yep what Bradders reported is correct, we was informed earlier today that 2 x 6.5 Creedmoors are winging their way over to Norfolk and should be here on Tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazzer Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 Think mine will be a bit longer as not had it on order that long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuggy Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 I do agree, but I's also like to point out what seems to be a slight misunderstanding regarding CSR. It's only in Service Optic and Iron sights classes that mag resting is permitted. In Practical Optic, anything goes as it's an open class. While it may be possible to mag rest these rifles, I would imagine that most will end up with a (spawn of Satan) Bipod and a variant of the Hubble telescope on them. I really can't see anyone shooting one nekkid (sans Bipod) or with a 4.5x scope in Service class. It would be great if they did though, coz after all it is in a service calibre. What it does do though is bring a good quality, reasonably priced and competition ready rifle to the market that will hopefully enable more people to take up CSR (the greatest shooting discipline around I might add) and struggle as we will, we will always find a way of fitting been more people on to the firing point, coz too many is never too many. ETA: It's not actually a struggle, it's a pleasure getting more and more shooters interested in what we do One day CSR will dominate the world Actually I was thinking that it might be fun to have a go at Service class one day with a 0.308 - if only to get some imagined advantage by concussing the other shooters with a muzzle brake. But the extra cost of the ammo would be a drawback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradders Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 Actually I was thinking that it might be fun to have a go at Service class one day with a 0.308 - if only to get some imagined advantage by concussing the other shooters with a muzzle brake. But the extra cost of the ammo would be a drawback. Well we already have a few who compete occasionally with their LMT's As for brakes, with our lot you'll get as good as you give, and nothing barks like a 16" LMT with one of my brakes on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris-NZ Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Here's the cheap brother Ruger. This is a group the load devel't guy at NZ Hunter shot yesterday. Not too shabby for a std budget gun and factory ammo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AckImp Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Really interested to see how this thing shoots Bradders, especially with military surplus or similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradders Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Really interested to see how this thing shoots Bradders, especially with military surplus or similar. It's supposed to arrive here today, but so far nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradders Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 It's here folks and I have to say I'm very impressed Pics and stuff shortly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AckImp Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Cool. Watching with interest. Abandon work and get yourself along to the range! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradders Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Something just broke on the compressor, so while I'm waiting for pics to upload to Photobucket, I'm trying to order a part Be patient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradders Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 OK folks, here it is. So lets see what you get The box Inside is a nicely packaged rifle complete with its accessories 2x 10rd Magpul Pmags, a Keymod sling swivel, 3" Piccadilly rail and a cable lock, which is ideal for locking your crash helmet to your bike, if like me you have a Ducati Scrambler and it doesn't have a helmet lock! Manual (won't be reading that......) The bolt. It's a 3 lugged affair with a nice Tacticool knob on it. The rear of the bolt contains a small allen wrench, I assume for adjusting the trigger What we're all here for, the rifle Rifle assembled with a 20rd Pmag Muzzle is threaded 5/8x24 and comes with a thread protector (visible ) As supplied it comes with a Samson Mfg 12" handguard Close up of the bolt release AR style safety So I decided to look further and see how it is put together. Upon removing the hand guard (which was very tight) you will see it uses a Std AR barrel nut, albeit one that is bored out to clear the larger diameter barrel. This is threaded on to Rugers own barrel nut. The barrel is screwed into the receiver and this nut retains it. I didn't go any further than this as I am unsure whether this nut can be used to adjust headspace. If you wanted to fit any other AR type handguards, I imagine this nut would have to be modified or a new one manufactured, which wouldn't be a hard job. While reassembling it I decided to replace the handguard with one of my own Bradley Arms 15" ones (made for me by Samson I also took the opportunity to modify one of my Doofer® brakes and also scoped it up with a Vortex 4-16 that I have spare Overall the rifle is very well made and solid. The stock locks up nicely with no movement and adjusts easily. The bolt is smooth and safety changes smoothly. There is a little creep in the trigger, but I'm sure that can be adjusted out. Overall it's a lot of rifle for £1400 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AckImp Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Looks ace, thanks for sharing the pics. Longer handguard looks good but I suppose the short one will be good for folk fitting big over barrel mods. Looking forward to hearing how it shoots in the real world. It'll spare me reading UK reviews saying, "I used to shoot practical 30yrs ago, now I don't. It shoots 3" groups with factory but I'm sure it'll be sub 1/4 moa with reloads." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzarM1 Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Hope to see a lefty model soon......If it shoots as good as the Scout does it will be very popular me thinks...lovely bit of kit Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 It's certainly a lot of rifle for the money. It looks really good with your handguard and brake, Mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradders Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Hope to see a lefty model soon......If it shoots as good as the Scout does it will be very popular me thinks...lovely bit of kit Mark I don't think that'll be happening any time soon. If it was then I may be tempted myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will_ Posted November 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Lovely looking rifle. Thanks for posting up the pictures for us to drool over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradders Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 It's certainly a lot of rifle for the money. It looks really good with your handguard and brake, Mark. Thanks To be honest I probably won't be keeping it.....but maybe I will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meles meles Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 We're looking forward to a range report, ooman. Things seem good so far... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuggy Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Look at that Hubble telescope. You might as well have added a bipod too. In all seriousness, thank you for taking the trouble to post the pictures and your impressions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazzer Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Looking good, can't wait to get mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch308 Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Been told my 6.5 creedmoor is arriving tomorrow. Fingers crossed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazzer Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 That's what I'm waiting for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazzer Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 Mark Would you be able to do one of your Doofer® brakes to fit the 6.5 Creedmoor version Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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