brown dog Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 Some initial pics of a whole load of carbon fibre genius: (One illustration of the genius: the complete cheekpiece and elevation kit weigh 100g .....100g! Weigh the Mcmillan equivalent and you're probably looking at 5 to ten times that weight). More pics to follow in due course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.300wm Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 That does look pretty smart. Price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 Be interested to see if the rifle feels ballanced given the stock is so light. Great for on the hill though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcampbellsmith Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 To answer your question, I have bought a McMillan made stock (Darrell Holland design) in order to get a thumbhole stock. I've owned four thumbhole stocks to date and the current one on my 260 Rem is just about spot on. I can shoot it and a leftie can shoot it too. If you look closely at my Avatar you will see my second thumbhole stock. http://www.thestalkingdirectory.co.uk/gallery/Member%20Galleries/p2948-remington-700-sa-in-260-rem.html It's been a slow project, and it's been running since '99, but the objective is to have all my rifles with thumbhole stocks. Regards JCS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orka Akinse Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 Wont fit a DTA will it????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveW Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 Matt, what is the inlet? Is it one of Edi's standard/regular one's or did you need to send the action/old stock over? I'd love one for a Nesika action. The grip areas look awesome, how do you find them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted October 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 Matt, what is the inlet? Is it one of Edi's standard/regular one's or did you need to send the action/old stock over? I'd love one for a Nesika action. The grip areas look awesome, how do you find them. Really perfect. I had a Manners T4 that I loved, and ergonomically this is every bit it's equal - the hand angles are spot on; the stippling is just right -grippy but not rough. What you can't see is a small ridge down the leading edge of the pistol grip; put there to assist your finger tips with muscle memory; bloomin good idea. Edi fitted it to a friend's rifle the same model as mine - hopefully he'll chip in to answer the nesika question. Where it steps ahead of the Manners is, I think, in two places: 1. The hidden extra is that edi is a materials scientist; and all the carbon fibre is properly laid to optimally absorb firing stresses and provide optimal overall strength: ie Lighter. Stronger. 2. It's made this side of the pond and Edi's a super bloke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tackb Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 Be interested to see if the rifle feels ballanced given the stock is so light. Great for on the hill though. I run one on my 260 rem 700 and it's great , the balance is fine . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveW Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 Where it steps ahead of the Manners is, I think, in two places: 1. The hidden extra is that edi is a materials scientist; and all the carbon fibre is properly laid to optimally absorb firing stresses and provide optimal overall strength: ie Lighter. Stronger. 2. It's made this side of the pond and Edi's a super bloke. Thanks Matt, precisely the two main reasons I would love one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJR Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 Bet a T3 would look nice in that...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch_egg Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 Bet a T3 would look nice in that...... A nice left handed T3 at that hehehehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roe Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 Looks good! What is the overall weight? Lightest similar-design I've put my hands on was 1600 grams (most of this design are 2400 to 4000 gr) Absolutely agree with "this side of the pond". American manufacturers seems to be better in using big words only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisF Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 Due to all the hassle dealing with US makers for anything , I would rather buy stuff from any where in the World BUT the US , however for some stuff they are the only ones , ie if you want a specific stock , like for a M40A1 , then you need to buy a McM , and same if you wanted to make a C3A1 clone, you need a McM A2 . Or If you wanted molded in colour or camo . Later Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Rem Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 This won't win me many friends, but here we go. In my opinion, the answer to your question is 'because your stock looks hideous'. There, I've said it. I hate the stippling, the pistol grip is an ugly protrusion and the overall look of the thing leaves me cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisF Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 What action is this stock inleted for , as it looks like maybe a rimfire stock ? Cheers Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldie Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 Iv just got an e-tac on my new 6x47 and it's spot on three shots in the same hole and it's not bedded very happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagged 77 Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 That looks very good - looks like its inlet for a CZ ..22? Really want to upgrade mine to a proper trainer so this might be an option. Will be in Co Cork soon so may have to stop by and check it out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejg223 Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 She is inlet for the cz 22lr (452?) . The faces I got in our workshop when I said we'll make an E-Tac for a 22... We had a stock in the corner which was actually planned to be a prototype for a T3 inlet, meaning the stock was made a bit heavier than normal maybe 1200gr vs 1000-1100 grams. The lightest E-Tac so far is sitting on my Palma barrelled Remmy that I use for hunting. Stock weighs 828grams complete with recoil pad, flush cups and adjustable cheek. Since Matt will have a sporter barrel on the CZ she should be fine weight wise. Out of the mould the E-Tac has the inlet for a SA remmy BDL meaning we had to convert the stock. Guy across the road has a cz 22 that I borrowed to make the stock. The bottom metal I had lying around is from John Van De Pol in Australia. His dad has a CNC workshop and he has a shooting problem. Think he calls his company Sterk and makes all sorts of bits like T3 recoil lugs in stainless and this bottom metal. The CZ I borrowed was of course right hand action, so we had to guess a bit turning it into a lefty. Hope that part fits.... The question with nesika action. I have not had one yet, however if it is a remmy clone one could quite easily make it fit. Often just the bolt release cut out , port opening and recoil lug position size that is different. We have fitted GBR, Barnard, John Carr's actions and Stillers in the past. Generally any work on an existing stock like re-inletting for a different action and fitting a mag system just soaks up days...not hours and it is difficult to charge what it actually cost. By the way, the stippling is done after moulding and can be left away, or made less aggressive. T3 in E-Tac, at the moment a conversion but we are talking of making a mould for it. (customers picture) edi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abolter Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 one thing my mate found was that the bolts that came with the stock were metric thread where the action was imperial. Hardly a big deal but worth knowing about in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roe Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 Brilliant weight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejg223 Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 one thing my mate found was that the bolts that came with the stock were metric thread where the action was imperial. Hardly a big deal but worth knowing about in advance Could have happened, sorry about that. Normally we don't send bolts with the stocks except if I know the customer might be stuck. Especially German customers have great difficulty getting imperial screws. A set of screws weighs about 25 grams, can go out in a letter so no big thing as we have a letter box around the corner. edi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will0 Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 Wow that T3 looks good in black. I have a tikka on order and will be interested in a stock next summer. What are the colour options? Do you have any sample pics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abolter Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 Any plans to do a thumbhole? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejg223 Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 Willo, we could do any duracoat colour if we can get it. With a little planning ahead we can organise a special colour or blend. Matts stock is a blend we do called "Irish Mix" as a customer christened it. Or a blend "PSE dark green" which is OD green and black. abolter, we are working on a thumbhole stock however for a production rifle. We have not made any new moulds for a while as we are working on new methods of moulding and mould making. Once we have positive results with the new methods we've planned to make a mould for a T3 E-Tac as that has the highest demand at the moment. Sorry BD for side tracking your thread. edi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 The stock looks perfect, my only criticism and its my taste is the thumbwheel lock, id prefer it to be socket head screws Otherwise its damn near exactly what id have for every of my own guns. I was thinking of a change from the Manners MC GAT I have on one of my stalking guns to something lighter,,, I may well ask you to do me one like this inletted for a LA 700 .. Now perhaps we should discuss ordering a LH T3 inletted stock too for Matt when hes had enough of the DTA in a few months and reverts back to a T3 6.5x47,,,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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