The Gun Pimp Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 Great to bring a medal home - well done FTR Team GB. Bit of a shocker if the Aussies have won the Open - I don't think anyone saw that as a possibility! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 Confirmed FTR GB third place - a fantastic achievement Open GB Fourth place , fourteen points short of a medal... Were all gutted (F open) , but hand on heart everyone has given 100% effort for the last ten days to achieve this result. Four years now to prepare for Ontario Canada Sure that other members who are here will contribute to the results. Ive taken loads of pictures and once back will post them. Time now for some RnR and go shoot at 1300 full size buffalo gong tomorrow with the ammo thats left .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1967spud Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=620397394678104&set=vb.100001235475069&type=2&theater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redshift Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 The team positions are as follows, F open 1st the convicts 3490/339v UK 4th 3427/261v FTR 1st U.S.A 3412/261v UK 3rd 3393/220v Shooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John MH Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 The team positions are as follows, F open 1st the convicts 3490/339v UK 4th 3427/261v FTR 1st U.S.A 3412/261v UK 3rd 3393/220v Shooter V Bull count is quite telling, both winning teams were shooting quite a bit tighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Star Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 A quick piece of travel information for the team if they don't already know. At Denver airport, the TSA is advising that your rifle case should be secured with the maximum number of padlocks it's designed to take. In other words, if you have a Peli 1720, which has 2 eyelets, you're OK with 2 padlocks but if you have a case with 4 eyelets, you should fit 4 padlocks. This directive is from the FAA and supposedly only applies at certain airports, but to avoid any chance of delays I'd make sure I had enough padlocks! As you'll be flying out of the U.S. they won't need to be TSA locks, as once the case has been secured in the presence of a TSA officer, it won't be opened again until you clear customs in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bianchi Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 The team results are now available on the ICFRA website (at last). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcampbellsmith Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 http://www.icfra.co.uk/page18.htm Thanks JCS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bianchi Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 A final report out by Laurie was posted on the GB F-Class home page last evening. Liked the FBI story. Would also to hear some more about his comment why a straight .284 may have been a better option at Raton. Great performance guys and congrats all round! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 Well done all, you can hold your heads high! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 A final report out by Laurie was posted on the GB F-Class home page last evening. Liked the FBI story. Would also to hear some more about his comment why a straight .284 may have been a better option at Raton. Great performance guys and congrats all round! That was a thoroughly entertaining read by Laurie. From what little info I have gained the reason for perhaps using the .284 are, better gun handling when shooting fast is the name of the game, The barrel not heating up as fast as the WSM in the midday sun by sending 15 rounds down the range in a very short space of time, potentially causing vertical problems. The Aussie who came second in the open individuals was using a 284 Win and said his velocity was 2830 fps, that's just damned good shooting. Looking at the V bull count by Mark Daish in the team event makes me wonder if he was using his .284? What I would really like is a equipment list, I'm told the USA open team used 7mm SAUM's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6mmBR Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 Mark did use his .284 as did I. I was so glad I took mine, it just handles quicker and smoother in quick relays. Typically the Yanks were sending down 15 shots in 3-5 minutes. Out of 60 rounds to count at 800 yards my ..284 only dropped 2 points shooting 15 rounds in typically 5 minutes, the WSM just could not achieve that in the same time. When we return to pair firing in Canada it may well be different. Also my thoughts are that both Australia and the USA string fire as a norm and we don't. Also the top 3 countries are all used to shooting in 40degrees of heat and heavy mirage, those conditions are rare in our green and pleasant land lol. I'm just getting up now and am heading to Cabelas for some retail therapy before flying home tonight. We have lessons to learn but Canada in 4 years time will be more of our game.. Looking forward to getting home now and to wash the dust of Raton from my throat with a decent pint! Thanks all for your support while we were away. And yeas it was Tony and I who had joined the FBI, I thought they would have sussed though as Tony was wearing a plastic Sherrifs badge!!! Cheers Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyw Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 WELL DONE GUYS! you can come home with heads high. enjoy yourselves when you get back-work is just around the corner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 Think were all back in blighty now, decent nights sleep and some home comfort made a lot of difference. Just finished unpacking, now to strip down the rifle, clean the trigger, bolt and action ultrasonically - get rid of the dust and borescope the barrel. I'll sit down when I do that - 600 rounds of string fire will not have done it any good.....although it did manage a 74 with 8v at 1000 on the first day of the individuals WC Hindsight - We were all told to take WSM, in reflection 284 or Shehane would have been a more informed choice in the circumstances. The sheer accuracy of the 284 / Shehane - holding the V (5 inches diameter) at all distances (800, 900 and 1000) was the overriding factor. The US team used predominantly 284's, the SA and Australians a mix of 284, and 300 / 7mm WSM's. The heat, the dust caused some problems with the jewel triggers, the dust was so fine it got everywhere. Nothing that couldn't be sorted, but when the trigger fails midway through a string of fire on the team shoot, it does nothing for the confidence or calmness of the firer. I think that going from three days of competing in the US Nationals straight into the World Championships could have been better planned (on the part of the organisers) - a day off in between would have helped (team practice is not a day off) The WC at Ontario Canada in four years time will be different - New Captain (hopefully Dave), a ME limit, so were restricted to 284's or Shehanes and cooler conditions without string fire will maybe even things up a little. Time to start saving for this - wether I make the team or not, people thinking about going will need a lot of funds and commitment. Its been a real pleasure and honour participating in the 2013 F Class WC at Raton, i'll post some pictures later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mole-e30 Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 Well done guys, you gave your best and represented us admirably. The financial commitment to go to a world's is huge and so is the support element from friends and family (I know as 3 of us from UKV are preparing to go to Australia for the benchrest world's in October) So well done, look forward to the pictures All the best Bruce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 US Nationals Opening Ceremony - Raising the Flag FTR / Open Representatives Cooper Range - out to 500 yds and beyond..... A happy pair reloading.... 06:30 AM - day 1 US Nationals The Tubb Range - 100, 1000 yd targets About 70 Pairs down on the firing point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 One half of the Open Team Coachs Bill Richards studying the wind Sole Entrant from the Netherlands, Marco Bean, produced some stunning results with his new, "take off" barrel in 7/270 WSM from Les Bear Custom Rifles Cat Herding Anyone? Some views were interesting - one for Elwood Gary looking on "El Capitano" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 Des with his mean green machine.. Dave and Tony, (FBI agents in disguise)...... Mark and Ian One of the few trucks out there with the back low enough for Dave to lean on!! Cooper Range at 06:30 Blow offs before the start of the World Championships (Ind) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 Grant watching one of the guys shooting One of Tony's details Watch the flag changes - 30 seconds between pictures 100 down and ready Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 GB Open Team ready for the off at Day 1 Other half of the Open Team Coaches - Martin Townsend coaching Grant at 1000 yds Bill Richards and Gary at 1000 Martin and Team Captain Team South Africa Team USA - Open Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnery Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 well done lads did us all proud great pictures Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 Mark topping up the tan during the Team event (he wasn't really) Des and Darren GB FTR Team with their well deserved and hard earned Bronze Medal GB Open Team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 Great pictures Andy - thanks! Looks and sounds to have been a pretty intense experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 Intense......its a bit like doing 3 back to back comps at Holesov in 40 degree heat.....without sleep, decent food or "cool ones"Im all F Classed out at the moment, like quite a few of us on the team we've (a few of us) decided no more national comps this year, although I will be doing the European Championships at Bisley in November.Just Borescoped the barrel,,,a little firecracking - but looks pretty good considering the abuse its had. Now to get on with another Shehane once the action arrives from my friend in the North. Hopefully, other UKV members who went on the trip will contribute to the photographs on the site. I'll probably talk about the prep needed and spares parts and hindsight needed too.........later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6mmBR Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 Thanks Andy the pictures are great. It was a tough comp indeed!!! I've been busy trying to sort kit out today but failed and jet lag just got the better of me! It was a good trip and I really would like to thank Mik and Tina his wife for all their hard work in making the trip possible. Canada will be more to our liking in 4 years with pair firing Bisley style and temperatures close to UKs and nearly at sea level not 6500 feet! My personal thought of Raton is I would not return there again in a hurry a World Championship where you spend an equal time pulling targets is not really on! To me that's like entering a major golf tornament and having to cut the greens between holes!!! Thanks for all the support guys. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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