Orka Akinse Posted July 7, 2013 Report Share Posted July 7, 2013 Anybody know where I can find detailed information on this technique? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch_egg Posted July 7, 2013 Report Share Posted July 7, 2013 Low and left..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offroad Gary Posted July 7, 2013 Report Share Posted July 7, 2013 Low and left..... Is that poi or poa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orka Akinse Posted July 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2013 Low and left..... Thanks for the company and the laughs yesterday bud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch_egg Posted July 7, 2013 Report Share Posted July 7, 2013 Is that poi or poa? Neither! That was Orka's advice to me last time. Thanks for the company and the laughs yesterday bud It was a good craic. At least that made up for my shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted July 7, 2013 Report Share Posted July 7, 2013 Doesn't it depend on which way you cant Ian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaken Posted July 7, 2013 Report Share Posted July 7, 2013 Its either a bit more or a bit less than you think and don't listen to a word anyone tells you....... especially me! Too many have got it sussed now, we'll have to think of something new. :-P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orka Akinse Posted July 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2013 Well if they have Rup they aint spilling the beans to help a fellow shooter..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tackb Posted July 7, 2013 Report Share Posted July 7, 2013 Top of my list is to shoot some groups and see ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orka Akinse Posted July 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2013 Someone somewhere must have written a piece on it with pictures........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akeld Posted July 7, 2013 Report Share Posted July 7, 2013 Not sure about having the whole rifle canted 90, but if you check out early sniper set ups (WW1) some had scopes mounted to the side, http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/deactivated-guns/allied-deactivated-guns/super-rare-ww1-smle-sniper-rifle/prod_1642.html Not sure if the principle was to create a lower profile or to have the scopeas level with the bore as possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryh Posted July 8, 2013 Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 Gents, It does depend which way you roll the rifle. For a RH rifle you would normally turn the rifle onto its left side, keeping bolt and ejection 'up'. This effectively turns your zero elevation into some left windage - so you need to aim right to take this windage off. You also now have no zero elevation so need to put back on you zero elevation so add some 'up'. How much up and right you need is dependant on your rifle. For reference, my 6.5x47 with a 1.85" scope height at 100 m is about a 6" right and 8" high hold. Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJR Posted July 8, 2013 Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 2mil high 1 mil left worked for me at 140mtr. Low left for you orka.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaken Posted July 8, 2013 Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 Orca. The Magpul dvds cover it. I think its the last disk, the one that covers optics. Its where we got the idea from in the first place. I missed all 5 shots on Saturday despite knowing where to shoot. :-P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted July 8, 2013 Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 It does depend which way you roll... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orka Akinse Posted July 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 Orca. The Magpul dvds cover it. I think its the last disk, the one that covers optics. Its where we got the idea from in the first place. I missed all 5 shots on Saturday despite knowing where to shoot. :-P Rup you got the disk set I can borrow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orka Akinse Posted July 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 Orca. The Magpul dvds cover it. I think its the last disk, the one that covers optics. Its where we got the idea from in the first place. I missed all 5 shots on Saturday despite knowing where to shoot. :-P Rup you got the disk set I can borrow? 2mil high 1 mil left worked for me at 140mtr. Low left for you orka.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orka Akinse Posted July 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 Orca. The Magpul dvds cover it. I think its the last disk, the one that covers optics. Its where we got the idea from in the first place. I missed all 5 shots on Saturday despite knowing where to shoot. :-P Rup you got the disk set I can borrow? 2mil high 1 mil left worked for me at 140mtr. Low left for you orka.... The crucial fact you have omitted is your a left hooker.... Gents, It does depend which way you roll the rifle. For a RH rifle you would normally turn the rifle onto its left side, keeping bolt and ejection 'up'. Terry that's the way I do it. This effectively turns your zero elevation into some left windage - so you need to aim right to take this windage off. Do I aim right or can I turn it out of the equation with the new windage turret that was my elevation turret? Think I may need to consider my zero stop at this point. You also now have no zero elevation so need to put back on you zero elevation so add some 'up'. Because your windage turret has now become your elevation turret which means as its set to zero as a default it will (in .308) terms be about 4" low at 100m. Yup get it the picture is forming. How much up and right you need is dependant on your rifle. For reference, my 6.5x47 with a 1.85" scope height at 100 m is about a 6" right and 8" high hold. I think a trip to Bisley is coming I got to master this for my own sanity. Terry Thanks Terry really appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJR Posted July 8, 2013 Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 No you can't dial the elevation turret(now windage) far enough below zero to cancel your horizontal hold with a PMII. Elevation you can dial by using the windage(now elevation) knob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryh Posted July 8, 2013 Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 No you can't dial the elevation turret(now windage) far enough below zero to cancel your horizontal hold with a PMII. Elevation you can dial by using the windage(now elevation) knob. Mike, OR you could set your zero stop to be the required setting to remove the elevation/windage at 100 yards (the typical canted range distance) and only hold a bit of 'up' - but that's tactics Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejg223 Posted July 8, 2013 Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 Only did that once and clean missed the fox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJR Posted July 8, 2013 Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 Ha Terry, yes you could but fiddling with my zero is never good! BUT with a vernier scope its no problem, just don't forget which revolution you are on.......... A point not lost on our learned friend(no pun intended). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaken Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 Rup you got the disk set I can borrow? There was a set doing the rounds, I'll try and track them down for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swamp Donkey Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 Don't look this way, not for a week or so anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c18rch Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 There not my disks still are they? Who has them now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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