sonic Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 Not the same with Lanc's in my experience they reduced mine. Cost saving and getting more of one lot where not deemed good reason. Though to be honest I have not asked lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 Not the same with Lanc's in my experience they reduced mine. Cost saving and getting more of one lot where not deemed good reason. Though to be honest I have not asked lately. The person mentioned actually lived in Lancs. 500 to buy 600 to keep is usual and fair for a field shooter though its always the case of "use it or loose it". I know of an odd field shooter who got a tiny allowance from the get go but it generally is a result of limited land being available for thier use. Now if you have 500/600 and don't use them............... I picked up a brick of .22 subs and a box of just 25 .410 shells last week and the hired hand behind the counter thought I had a real serious rabbit problem, so perhaps I am out of touch a bit? mind you my mate only got his ticket 12 mnths ago lives in town and was never questioned about the 500/600 which has always been the norm in the past. They did give me the cost saving BS letter on my .22 cf as I asked for more than 500 / 600, it wasn't the issue though so I assume that was the usual actions of the old head who lost his job? Still I got 500 /600 .22 cf, which will suffice, honestly I wanted to buy in a consignment of 1000 bullet heads at a go I am not some sort of wack job, end of the world sort just someone who don't like driving miles and settling for what the dealer has at that time paying less didn't come into it other than the petrol and time Now if I could find some lower power .22 RF that actually shot, I should ask for more and feel fully justified Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 May well of been policy of the former as it dated back to when I lived up near you Kent. And once or twice since. I haven't asked lately I don't get through the amount I used to. Having more use for my 243. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 May well of been policy of the former as it dated back to when I lived up near you Kent. And once or twice since. I haven't asked lately I don't get through the amount I used to. Having more use for my 243. Yeah, its less of a treck to get more though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 Just replenished the 452 supplies with a brick of Winchester this time. They say they aint changed them but tested a box at 100 first from my mates supply and they produced a 10 shot group at 130 yds with 8 of them going into a inch, two shots cracked off a tad faster and ended up about 1" high. They didn't use to do that good in the white box ! Maybe it is more than repackaging? The new brick of winnies turned out real bad! shot just first 5 inconsistent and 4 out of five would not extract. This gun has never failed to extract anything ever! bolt was nice and clean / recently cleaned and serviced. Put a full box of SK through it all shot consistent all extracted flawlessly. suspect out of spec rims. Any how Malmo guns (Lancaster) took them back no question a fine company to deal with as usual and swapped them for another box of SK, even reducing the price gap for my troubles. Shame because that one box I was given shot great, that's it with ammo sometimes batches go bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer7 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 I bought a brick of Winchester subsonics the other day which I used to really like but this lot are the worst .22 cartridges I've ever purchased. Even worse than Remingtons!! Never had so many misfires and fliers. At least one in five misfires. I pulled the bullets and most of the misfires have no priming compound in the case at all-zero. Some do have a little, but only less than a quarter of the circumference. In comparison some of non-misfired cases I pulled bullets from have a perfect 360º distribution of priming compound. Think I'll send Winchester an email. I did tell the gunshop today but got a rather unhelpful offer of 'take a box in and show us' ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 Until quite recently I had two choices for ammo winchester at one LGS and remington at another. A new gun shop opened and stocks a good choice of 22. So I got 100 each of Eley and RWS for a start. my Brno seems to like the Eley the 1022 won't cycle the RWS. Had some Remington that shot quite well next lot had supersonic crack from at least one in twenty. For years All I could get hold of was winchester but it kept under 1/2" at 50 yds and held zero from lot to lot can't say that now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17Rem/6BR Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 I had some Win 22 subs recently which cracked like hell whilst I was trying to do discreet rabbit shoot at a nearby school.I was using a shortened/moderated BSA 1215 . When I checked the spent cases they had splits running up from the rim 1/4-3/8".This happened in probably 4 boxes out off the brick.Got quite an unpleasant chuff through the back of the action too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybrock Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 My CZ loves Eley's also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbal Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 My 452 likes eley subsonic's and have had clean kills out to 127 paces it does really well with the rest of the eley range. Rick Would it be useful if everyone identified which 22 rf they have used-each maker has a fair range,and they are not all made to the same standard,so differ in performance.(of course ,at the cheaper end,lot to lot differences are much more likely,as quality control is less good). Let alone more specialised ammo like hyper velocity,and to a lesser extent subs-my experience has been that Eley and RWS do not produce much poor ammo,but other makes can be very variable-some Winchester/Remington can be fine,but other grades rather poor.I am talking accuracy more than functioning-semi autos can be very fickle-but some point has to be reached where 25 fps more would function,but the batch maybe isn't consistent enough.Thankfully,there isn't a huge price difference,apart maybe ,from the very best match grades-and in any case,a miss is the real cost. Just a suggestion,though-to be fair to the manufacturer and helpful to other potential users. Gbal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chr15j Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 My 452 used to like the old eley subs but not the new ones, moved onto winnies and its very happy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballistol Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 I recently tried shooting groups at 100yds with my 452 Super Match and tested over 15 different types of ammo. RWS subsonic came in fourth, with 1.27". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizzbangwhallop Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 My standard barrel Finnfire likes Eley subs with a Sirrocco SM2 mod on the front. This combination came out the best against Winchester and CCI subs and a choice of mods: an old faithful Parker Hale, SAK, Ase Utra from my .17HMR.... and it was the quietest! I even changed the firing pin spring back to the original from the J&P version I'd bought as that now sounded loud in comparison! Accurate? Oh yes..... ask the rabbit at 190m - 'cept you can't. 's me Fizz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinB Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 My standard barrel Finnfire likes Eley subs with a Sirrocco SM2 mod on the front. This combination came out the best against Winchester and CCI subs and a choice of mods: an old faithful Parker Hale, SAK, Ase Utra from my .17HMR.... and it was the quietest! I even changed the firing pin spring back to the original from the J&P version I'd bought as that now sounded loud in comparison! Accurate? Oh yes..... ask the rabbit at 190m - 'cept you can't. 's me Fizz Fizz i use a Fnnfire varmint with a standard length barrel, shot many types of ammunition through it and its remarkably unfussy athough Lapua, Winchester, RWS and Eley seem about equal (all good performers). Interested in your own experiments though i might have to source another mod if its that quiet Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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