Grouse Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 Doesn't sound right at all, in spring I was watching cubs and vixen at 400 yards before it got light enough to deal with. Videoed them too, but not put on computer yet. After gaining experience with TI you get to know what an animal is by heat given off it, even if the image isn't brilliant - sheep with fleece just show head and legs (due to insulation effect of the wool). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wsm Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 Even thought the unit obviously isn't working properly its still picking up body heat as suggested all be it at close range This shows how insulated a deer is compared to a horse Red Horse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrelsniffer Posted January 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 Doesn't sound right at all, in spring I was watching cubs and vixen at 400 yards before it got light enough to deal with. Videoed them too, but not put on computer yet. After gaining experience with TI you get to know what an animal is by heat given off it, even if the image isn't brilliant - sheep with fleece just show head and legs (due to insulation effect of the wool). Correct there mate even in a field full of sheep you can make out the distinct shape and movements of fox quite easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camo304 Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 WSM what unit is it? it will still be under warranty so i would send it back chap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrelsniffer Posted January 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 WSM what unit is it? it will still be under warranty so i would send it back chap. Same as mine andy which TJs has borrowed him to test out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camo304 Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 Sounds like it defo needs returning then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
204 RUGER Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 Very impressed with Micks unit when out foxing, also during the day shooting long range rabbits on a bank. The rabbits were hard to spot due to bushes etc and it was hammering down. He pulled out the thermal and we cold clearly see which bushes they were sat behind, just a case of waiting for them to move. Great bit of kit. The fox Mick mentioned earlier in the thread was walking in pretty thick bull rushes, I couldn't see anything with the NV, apx 150 yards but through the thermal we could see the fox clear walking left to right. We just waiting for it to pop out the other end. Cool as. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
243ack Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 Guide 518C cost me 3800 1000 cheaper than other places Where is the cheapest place to buy from at the minute?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrelsniffer Posted January 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 Where is the cheapest place to buy from at the minute?. Now since i put that post up i was told yesterday that Armstrong optical where i got mine from have put the price back up to 4800 due to other companies being unhappy ? if that's true or not i am not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
243ack Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 Now since i put that post up i was told yesterday that Armstrong optical where i got mine from have put the price back up to 4800 due to other companies being unhappy ? if that's true or not i am not sure. Have emailed them - will let you know. Thanks for info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
204 RUGER Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 ... Now since i put that post up i was told yesterday that Armstrong optical where i got mine from have put the price back up to 4800 due to other companies being unhappy ? if that's true or not i am not sure. If it is mate you had an even bigger bargain.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PESCA Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 Mick, you are right. The price has certainly increased as Ian informed me of this on the 14th. Unsure as to whether it sits at the same price as TJ's though. George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wsm Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 A few updated pics Horses 80yds Cottage at 150yds with something warm behind the window Fox at 250yds.Easily recognisable when it moved Two rabbits at over 200yds Terrier at 15yds on 2x Same distance different terrier on red heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrelsniffer Posted February 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Certainly better pics with new unit mate compared to what they gave you as a trial unit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Would be interesting to compare a few units side by side, from the pictures Micks looks more definition? Ours is similar to WSM, definition seems better on some nights than others. These cold nights seem poor for definition, but suppose you would expect that. Anyone know whether TI's work purely with electronic Jiggery pokery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Or can they be a bit like NV, in that one tube can be alot better than another? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrelsniffer Posted February 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Or can they be a bit like NV, in that one tube can be alot better than another? Not a clue mate but I know I've had a few nights where I could not make the surroundings out, or its been a white wash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wsm Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Definition is certainly better on some nights.Although they'll always pick up heat signatures I don't think that the constant cold temperatures help as theres very little difference between fields/hedges etc.I've got a short vid of a fox at about 250 taken a week or two back when it was milder for a few days and its really clear To be fair the above photos were all taken from the inside through an open window which probably isn't doing the unit any favours either The thermal don't have tubes so there should be no difference between units Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiff Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 I may be barking up the wrong tree (sorry if I am) but I assume the units are using liquid crystals? In which case it sounds like they are being slowed/frozen when very cold at night, giving poor definition/function. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 I may be barking up the wrong tree (sorry if I am) but I assume the units are using liquid crystals? In which case it sounds like they are being slowed/frozen when very cold at night, giving poor definition/function. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 Now that's interesting, and would answer an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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