advice please on load for 22-250

[ejg223]

I'm looking for a fox, crow, rabbit load for a 1in14 22-250,

which one of these bullets could be recomended.

 

1) Nosler custom comp. HPBT 52gr (53335)

2) Speer match HPBT 52gr

3) SMK HPBT 52gr

 

thanks

edi

[Redfox]

Vmax 55 gr Fed 210m primer , 36.5 grs Varget, .025 off the rifling gives one hole groups in my rem 700 VSSF, about 3650 fps.

The 55gr holds up better at distance and doesnt drift as much in a side wind as the 50-52gr bullets. Ive used this load for nearly ten yrs and it still works fine.

I have thought of trying the Hogdon Benchrest powder but not got round to it and advantages would be small.

Redfox

[ejg223]

Thanks Red,

Very low on the Varget at the moment, any tips on

N140 or h335 with Nos 55 BT? Don't have any v-maxes.

 

Was just looking for a cheap load to run in rifle and not

to waste the nos on bunnies.

Speer claim bc of 253 the others 220.

 

rgds

edi

[Redfox]

With the 335 30.5 grs to 33 grs is recommended load.

N140 33.3 to 35.6 grs is the range they give.

Neither of these powders is ideal and the velocities are quite bit lower, but ok to bed the barrel in, another goodie is H380, 38 to 39grs one of the all time favourites across the pond, Varget took over as it is less temperature sensitve winter to summer and vice versa.

Redfox

[ejg223]

Thanks Red,

I'll just start with the h335 being a bit fast it might

help with the short 21" barrel.

Loved it in the 223 and 308.

 

cheers

edi

[MarinePMI]

Just curious here, and no flame intended, but isn't 22-250 just a bit over kill on fox?

 

Do you not save the hides, or is it just a process of extermination? Just curious...

[Guest northernchris]

Overkill???

 

Dead is Dead mate.

 

.22-250 is one of the most popular foxing rounds here in the UK along with .243,.222 and .223.

[ejg223]

Marine,

I used to have a 223 which worked fine for me up to about 300yds,

further out I didn't feel comfortable.

The other thing is, in Ireland we are allowed to go after deer with

a 22-250 and I might use it for small sika calfs or hinds.

At least I'll have a back-up rifle.

We don't keep the hides on foxes. The deader the better.

 

edi

[MarinePMI]

Overkill???

 

Dead is Dead mate.

 

.22-250 is one of the most popular foxing rounds here in the UK along with .243,.222 and .223.

 

NC,

 

I understand dead is dead, I was asking more about saving the hides vs. just killing them off.

 

Marine,

I used to have a 223 which worked fine for me up to about 300yds,

further out I didn't feel comfortable.

The other thing is, in Ireland we are allowed to go after deer with

a 22-250 and I might use it for small sika calfs or hinds.

At least I'll have a back-up rifle.

We don't keep the hides on foxes. The deader the better.

 

edi

 

Edi,

 

Okay, makes sense to me now. Across the pond in the US, most folks try to save the hides to return a little $ to pay for more bullets and such (and in some cases, a new rifle). Now that I understand that your foxes fall into the same category as our rock chucks and prairie dogs I can see how the 22-250 would be a desirable cartridge for you needs.

 

Oh well, "Two separate nations, divided by a common language", eh?

 

Cheers!

[Vermincinerator]

Hi Edi,

i have been having great success using 53grn SMK's over 38grns of H380 for my Ackley fireforming load.

I chose these because of the flat base over the 52grainer and shot them alongside 55grn Bergers and 52grn A-max's.

These bullets consistantly went into 3/8" @ 100yds and held 3/4 moa at 420yds for 5 shots (3 shot groups dont count )

The Bergers were not quite as good and the A-max,s would not hold 1" @ 100yds

I thought i would not waste the fireforming process by finding a bullet that my barrel liked and the 53 is the one that came out on top.

 

Ian.

[ejg223]

Thanks Ian,

I'll keep that in mind. It is often mentioned that

flat base heads seem easier to get shooting.

edi

[Guest steyrman2]

being putting a few loads together with 63 grain sierra smp well im happy to say there holding 1" groups at 200 yards using 37.5 grains of h 380 we spent all morning playing around with it and have settled with it the rifle is rem 700 heavey barrel fluted with 1-14 twist again this is what i use and it works shoot be good for every thing inc them sika hinds and calfs

[ejg223]

Steyerman,

for that application I've got some Hornady 60gr SP on route.

Hope to stabilize them with H335 or maybe better N140 out to max 200yds.

For the start I'll try load a not so hot cheapy load for bunnies and to get

to know the rifle. After that try some 55gr BT's for longer range stuff.

The nos Bt's are about twice the price of the HPBT's mentioned earlier.

That's why I asked if some one had some experience with them.

 

That load you have sounds good with not too high pressure and as

long as it doesn't key hole.

 

edi

[Guest steyrman2]

well i read some where that 60 grain vmax dont stableise in 1in 14 twist i have tested n140 groups were not as good had a tub ofh380 and bingo everything worked out perfect as for price 63 grain smp 12 pounds a box vmax are around 18 so your saving all the way if you would like a box i can arrange it for u

[ejg223]

I've got the 60gr SP not v-maxes so some hope they could stabilize.

I'll try those first. Let you know how they go.

edi

[v-max]

Hi i run N140 at 37g/37.1g as the max & had good results in 55g bullets but have backed off to 36.5g for same effect.

[taffy]

I'm looking for a fox, crow, rabbit load for a 1in14 22-250,

which one of these bullets could be recomended.

 

1) Nosler custom comp. HPBT 52gr (53335)

2) Speer match HPBT 52gr

3) SMK HPBT 52gr

 

thanks

edi

 

Definately stick with the 52gr bullets. I found that fowlers worked very well as do the Barts.

If you don't want to use custom bullets then I would always go with the 52gr A-Max.

I used 36-37gr of Varget or VV N140. Velocities were very consistant at 3750 fps.

I even got one rifle spitting them out of a 24" bbl at 3900fps and still shooting 1/4 moa.

Don't be put off by the so called match label of the a-max. Trust me when they hit charlie or crows, rabbits and magpies they simply blow up!!!

Hope this helps.

[ejg223]

Definately stick with the 52gr bullets. I found that fowlers worked very well as do the Barts.

If you don't want to use custom bullets then I would always go with the 52gr A-Max.

I used 36-37gr of Varget or VV N140. Velocities were very consistant at 3750 fps.

I even got one rifle spitting them out of a 24" bbl at 3900fps and still shooting 1/4 moa.

Don't be put off by the so called match label of the a-max. Trust me when they hit charlie or crows, rabbits and magpies they simply blow up!!!

Hope this helps.

 

Thanks Taffy & V-max,

I also saw that there is a nice difference between the Vit load data (max 35.6gr)

and for example my speer manual (37.0gr) on the N140 although both mention

speer 55gr SP.

I ran the 52gr a-maxes in my 223 and they did the job real well even though

I loaded quite low with 25gr H335. (bit over 1/4" groups)

Got a few left to test. If they work, I'll get more.

 

The 60gr SP are only for a special purpose and won't be used a lot

so I don't mind driving em hard with the N140.

 

The good BC of the 55 nos BT's seems tempting and I've got 2 boxes.

I'll also test H335, speer claims only 50fps below N140 and I had great

results with it in 308 and 223.

As usual the rifle decides.

 

edi