lordlardofframs Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 Hi darren thanks mate been looking the bosh iluminators u use but there dosent seem to be any about! what do u guys think of this camera? http://www.rfconcepts.co.uk/camera_ir_rf30sh2370.htm not sure how the lens in mm works? is that a mesurment of the zoom or field of view? i want it to spot incoming foxs coming to a caller so whatever u guys think would work best! cheers Andy Andy, you will not see a fox at 100yards with a 3.6mm lens, to see a fox at 100 yards you will need a 100mm lens at least. http://www.cam-techsecurity.co.uk/cctv-free-lens-calculator this is a good lens calculator which should help Regards Darren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizzbangwhallop Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 Morning all, Gone a bit quiet so I guess we're all in acquisition and development mode, much like everyone-else I can't find any used Bosch Aegis UFLED units, even tried the mod vehicle sales site at Witham Motors (http://www.mod-sales.com/) 'cos they sometimes have kit like this but no joy there, could always buy a helicopter though! Quick question for Darren (Lordlardofframs) - Could you use the Sony doubler you fitted to an N550 on the Ranger Pros? I can get my hands on one and guess it would/could improve the definition, although restrict the field of view. atb Fizz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizzbangwhallop Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 Just found these, don't know if they're any use? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Derwent-infra-red-lighting-PCB-/330583385375?pt=UK_CCTV&hash=item4cf84e251f#ht_939wt_1141 Is any of the other items he's selling any use to us as well? atb Fizz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyR Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 Morning all, Gone a bit quiet so I guess we're all in acquisition and development mode, much like everyone-else I can't find any used Bosch Aegis UFLED units, even tried the mod vehicle sales site at Witham Motors (http://www.mod-sales.com/) 'cos they sometimes have kit like this but no joy there, could always buy a helicopter though! atb Fizz The Bosch Aeegis units are available from your local Bosch CCTV oufit,there is a dealer locator on the Bosch website. However the problem is the price I phoned a local one and was quoted £450-550 each depending on spec That is why I used a Lightforce lamp with an IR filter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizzbangwhallop Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 The Bosch Aeegis units are available from your local Bosch CCTV oufit,there is a dealer locator on the Bosch website. However the problem is the price I phoned a local one and was quoted £450-550 each depending on spec That is why I used a Lightforce lamp with an IR filter. ...and that's the problem! Lol! Trying to do it on a budget (aka pension) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bri2506 Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 Hi darren thanks mate been looking the bosh iluminators u use but there dosent seem to be any about! what do u guys think of this camera? http://www.rfconcept..._rf30sh2370.htm not sure how the lens in mm works? is that a mesurment of the zoom or field of view? i want it to spot incoming foxs coming to a caller so whatever u guys think would work best! cheers Andy Dont even bother with these sort of cameras. I spent £400 + on this crap with different lens and got no where. You need a digital monocular or a really good commercial camera to do the job. Save yourself the wasted money buy once buy right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bri2506 Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 I use a Bescor MPH1 Motorized Remote Controlled Pan & Tilt Head (do a google / ebay search) which is fully motorized and remote Regards Darren They only turn 90 degrees could do with at least 200 degrees. Keep lookin at comercal cctv but not found anything that is nt going to cost an arm and a leg. cheers though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordlardofframs Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 They only turn 90 degrees could do with at least 200 degrees. Keep lookin at comercal cctv but not found anything that is nt going to cost an arm and a leg. cheers though Oh no they dont! you get two choices 180deg or 360 deg. If you go for 360deg be careful with your leads! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bri2506 Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 I stand corrected then. It just said something about 90 degrees. They were only listing one. How hard would it be to extend the lead, it only has a 3 foot lead on it. And just like to add your pulsar doubler is spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordlardofframs Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 I stand corrected then. It just said something about 90 degrees. They were only listing one. How hard would it be to extend the lead, it only has a 3 foot lead on it. And just like to add your pulsar doubler is spot on. This isn't the cheapest place, but they list all the accesories including a 20ft cable, USB controller, etc etc. http://www.cameragrip.co.uk/acatalog/Pan___Tilt_Power_Heads.html You can find all of these on the bay at a fraction of the cost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bri2506 Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 That's spot on. Can feel another project coming on. Are the fairly easy to control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skany Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 So then Cctv cameras are not worth getting then if I've got to spend the same cash as ranger on them! I want to be able to pick out Charlie at 3-500 yds! Thanks Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bri2506 Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 I wouldn't have said so. Darren might know which camera to use but the type you showed are no good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizzbangwhallop Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 Just to add another toy to the box......................... Went over to the keeper's last night to walk some pens out ready for the birds to arrive and set up the ranger pro's with the screens in daylight. The keeper has the Pulsar N550 with the Sony doubler and it was mentioned by a telecoms systems man there that it would be easy to add a wireless transmitter to the N550 and a receiver in the Ranger system. Meaning that the others could see what was going on through the scope on the screens. (Lol, can just see the recriminations now!!) The wireless transmitters must only weigh a couple of ounces and means that the rifle won't have the wire to get tangled up in. Next time I see him I'll ask him about specs but guess there'll be someone on here already who'll know. Quick question of my own which Darren (Lordy ) will know the answer to..... using the quad splitter for your 4 cameras, do you need specific screens set up for multi feeds? Or an adaptor? Magic box? ie Now I've got a pair of in-car DVD screens on the way, can I use these or need to find and buy something-else? Cheers Fizz Onwards and upwards, infinity and beyond (or something like that!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordlardofframs Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 Just to add another toy to the box......................... Went over to the keeper's last night to walk some pens out ready for the birds to arrive and set up the ranger pro's with the screens in daylight. The keeper has the Pulsar N550 with the Sony doubler and it was mentioned by a telecoms systems man there that it would be easy to add a wireless transmitter to the N550 and a receiver in the Ranger system. Meaning that the others could see what was going on through the scope on the screens. (Lol, can just see the recriminations now!!) The wireless transmitters must only weigh a couple of ounces and means that the rifle won't have the wire to get tangled up in. Next time I see him I'll ask him about specs but guess there'll be someone on here already who'll know. Quick question of my own which Darren (Lordy ) will know the answer to..... using the quad splitter for your 4 cameras, do you need specific screens set up for multi feeds? Or an adaptor? Magic box? ie Now I've got a pair of in-car DVD screens on the way, can I use these or need to find and buy something-else? Cheers Fizz Onwards and upwards, infinity and beyond (or something like that!!) Your screens will be fine, you just need the Signal splitter like this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CCTV-Color-Quad-Video-Splitter-4CH-DVR-Camera-/230418563418?pt=UK_Gadgets&hash=item35a604415a With a unit like this you can switch between cameras, or watch all of them at once. If you want to transmit wireless signals google RC AV transmitter, I use something similar to this http://pandapeeps.com/racewood-900mhz-500mw-wireless-av-transmitter-p-40.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skany Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 Darren Wht exact cctv camera/lens are u using to match the quality of a ranger? And wht sort of cash? I'm stuck and have no idea wht to buy? A link to some to the same hardware would be usefull! Or should I just get a ranger? Also the bosh units! Are two required? Cheers Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizzbangwhallop Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 Thanks for the info Darren. atb Fizz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybrock Posted July 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 Darren Wht exact cctv camera/lens are u using to match the quality of a ranger? And wht sort of cash? I'm stuck and have no idea wht to buy? A link to some to the same hardware would be usefull! Or should I just get a ranger? Also the bosh units! Are two required? Cheers Andy Andy, While Darrens set up is the dogs ###### a Ranger or Ranger Pro will serve you well with either a lightforce with IR filter or a laser hooked upto a monitor. I've just put mine in a weatherproof electrical box the same as Bri2506 as I'm not sure the Rangers are 100% waterproof. Cheers Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizzbangwhallop Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 Taking this sideways to another project for a moment with so many brains on board....... Having converted a Lightforce to HID can I take it a stage further and add a dimmer? Method, specifications of the dimmer unit and any links gratefully received. atb Fizz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bri2506 Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 I have a dimmer on my normal lamp but it interferes with my ranger. But sure a surpressor would sort that out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skany Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 Andy, While Darrens set up is the dogs ###### a Ranger or Ranger Pro will serve you well with either a lightforce with IR filter or a laser hooked upto a monitor. I've just put mine in a weatherproof electrical box the same as Bri2506 as I'm not sure the Rangers are 100% waterproof. Cheers Andy [ /quote] Hi Andy It's just if a cctv camera for less cash then a ranger and is better/as good as a ranger for less moneys I'd rather get that! It's looking more and more like a ranger mind! Lol Cheers Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordlardofframs Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Andy, if it is a foxing set up you are trying to make, you won't in my opinion beat the Yukon Ranger. Do not bother with the Ranger Pro, it isn't worth the extra money. My shooting involves both Rabbit shooting and Foxing, I therefore find the Field of View of the Ranger too small. My current set up uses a 22mm bullet camera and a Yukon Ranger. Here is a quick video showing you how they compare http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtSF5miEcy0&feature=youtube_gdata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybrock Posted July 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Andy, Like Darren said I don't think (although I'm new to NV)you will get a better picture than a Ranger/monitor/IR filter/ laser after all we are only spotting fox / rabbit we ain't making a HD wildlife documentary....keep it simple. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordlardofframs Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Andy, Like Darren said I don't think (although I'm new to NV)you will get a better picture than a Ranger/monitor/IR filter/ laser after all we are only spotting fox / rabbit we ain't making a HD wildlife documentary....keep it simple. Andy You might not be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skany Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Andy, if it is a foxing set up you are trying to make, you won't in my opinion beat the Yukon Ranger. Do not bother with the Ranger Pro, it isn't worth the extra money. My shooting involves both Rabbit shooting and Foxing, I therefore find the Field of View of the Ranger too small. My current set up uses a 22mm bullet camera and a Yukon Ranger. Here is a quick video showing you how they compare http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtSF5miEcy0&feature=youtube_gdata Nice one darren great vid! even with the 22mm camera looks like u would see charlies eyes coming from a very decent distance the same as the mk1 eyeball when lamping & spoting! ill grab a ranger & start getting bits together! cheers Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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