hiya guys, no nothing to do with deer. one of my shoots has a disabled kids primary school two fields over from my ground, and you can imagine the implications of shooting neer a school. the subsonics are just something that i am considering trying due to the fox's around the area being lampshy and not having any night vision riflescopes the only option is to try and shoot them in the early hours of the morning or later in the afternoon/evening. if only life was sooooo simple