your right ray, i need trigger time for sure,never seem to get the b....y! time any more,but i,m going for a stalk on saturday ,so we will see ,but would be very nice to get out with "fruit slayers" in fact i have to ring the main fruit slayer tonight ,so i will have a paly with my 6.6x55 on saturday and i,m going up the range tomorrow with the 223 to see if i stil know how it works!!!!!!!!!,and thanks to a bit of help from varmartyn and silent the ssg is shooting like the dogs do dars!!!!so look out!!!!!!!!!!