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  1. True that there's always a shortage of volunteers to take on club duties but this is common to most clubs I suspect. There's no excuses for downright rudeness in many of these cases though Gluv. Playing devil's advocate for a minute, it's a bit of a far stretch accusing everyone sharing similar experiences of ALL being "annoying club members...". That in itself is insulting to the people that keep things afloat financially, the club membership and is a position of arrogance even? Yes, those running the clubs work hard and we shouldn't ever forget they volunteer for thankless tasks and generally do a great job (I'm always impressed by the dedication and hard work of those helping to run shooting clubs) which is appreciated especially by those of us who've had do do similar. But when many people, not just a few, report what has been reported, then it's not right to dismiss the comments as all being from "whinging snowflakes" because such views are demeaning, intolerant and undignified. "Character" is one thing, and usually isn't defined as the knack of being unnecessarily rude. Not a good trait for a club secretary especially is it? To be fair to Offas, there was a transitional period and a mix up which wasn't all of their own doing but as the HO status quo got tangled up with the new committee appointments, balls were dropped and communication most certainly could have been a lot better a lot sooner. The old guard worked their socks off but rarely did I witness much rudeness...they were the real characters if you like, and were guilty not of a lack of passion for the sport or for growing membership, but perhaps just needed a helping hand on the administrative side. Again, this is not uncommon with many clubs but those running them if they want loyal membership need to be aware of the sensitivities of dealing with people. I would have renewed my membership if one or two ranges had been available in the forthcoming year and if we could have gone a year without being messed about so much on some of the longer ranges, plus been treated with a little more respect. As it is, I'll be sitting this year out.
  2. I agree, but Simon was totally unequivocal when discussing it with me: Anyone leaving the club now will be required to undergo a full probationary period if returning....in his own words. He did cite HO guidelines but having (just) checked myself following your post, you seem to be correct here so why he should tell me otherwise seems to point to it being specifically an ORDC requirement, perhaps to avoid losing too many members this year? The cynical view is that this looks to be the case anyway. I think that's a bit low imho given the number of cancelled shoots last year.
  3. Budget considerations for reloading? If you just want to try it out and have access to a club rifle, you could start trying various calibres to see which you prefer shooting. Reloading costs can vary a lot depending on calibre. If this is an issue and you just want to practice skills, then the cheapest solution to 600 (but no further really) might be the humble .223 with tight twist (1/7 to 1/8 for up to 77/80grn bullets....80gr might be pushing it a bit for a 1/8). If barrel life needs to be a consideration and you intend on shooting a lot, small calibre for charge column/case dia rounds such as .243 or 6mm CM will burn out a barrel in a half or third of the time that a .308 might carry on with acceptable accuracy for. Middle ground might be 6.5 x 47 (ideal 600 yd cal), or any of the other available 6.5s or perhaps the 6mm br (2000 to perhaps 2800 rounds per barrel seems a commonly experienced lifespan if velocities are kept sensible and loads aren't too hot). T3 is not a bad place to start. Loads of custom chassis options, decent trigger.
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    Reloading for .308 - powders

    If using one powder to cover both weights I would probably use N150. It works just fine with 155gr, and should work fine in the OPs longish 26 inch barrel taking advantage of the longer barrel pressure/burn time. Many have found that the N150 may give lower velocities than N140 with the 150/155 bullets but better consistency for some. It would imho be a better powder for the 175s. I have used N140 with 175s and even 190gr bullets but have also suffered pretty scary pressure spikes when the warmer weather picks up. RS50 is well worth considering. It's basically re-labelled TR140 and has a similar energy to N140 but I've always found it less likely to spike as readily and have also experienced slightly better velocities when using it with my 155gr bullets. Chareg weights are poretty equivalent between N140/RS50/TR140 but I would never try loading N140 up as hot as I have using RS50 due to its propensity to pressure spike.
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    Odd coloured cases after tumbling

    I wouldn't unduly worry about case wear if rotary tumbling but would think about chemical reactions of anything used. Citric or Lactic acids dosed at 6 to 10% should be fine and cold rinsed afterwards. I use these for my coffee machines too to descale the inners and they're recommended for anything containing brass or copper or steel without any danger of damaging the metals. Different water areas have different chemical compositions of minerals, and differing alkalinity so may be more prone to reaction with the brass surface depending on exposure time and temperature. It's rarely a concern though as no galvanic corrosion or reaction takes place within the main body of the brass, just on the surface. Personally, I just dry tumble mine in a mixed walnut/corn cob media with half a teaspoon of non-ammonia polish before annealing and sizing, then follow up with 10 to 15 minutes in an ultrasonic bath before the cases go into a hot air dryer. They're invariably shot out by multiple firings long before these methods of cleaning do any harm whatsever so knock yourselves out but just take care not to use anything with a strongly reactive acidic or alkaline agent that could weaken the alloy.
  6. Sadly, this is becoming all too common place with many clubs who are tied to using MOD ranges which is why I've not bothered to renew one of my memberships this year....far too many instances of last minute cancellations which just seems unprofessional, incompetent or deliberate on the part of Landmarc and with the attitude of some military range officers that clearly they'd rather civvies weren't there at all. It cost a lot of us a lot of money and wasted time last year and frankly, it wasn't worth the wasted time, money or effort to bother continuing with MOD ranges this coming year for me personally. For those that will continue, I do hope that the situation improves for you this coming year over the shambles that it has been.
  7. AFAIK even existing members who lapse membership now with ORDC have a mandatory obligation of going through a formal probationary period with them before allowing to become a full member, apparently due to new Home Office requirements (despite previously being full members which makes no sense at all....absolutely none!). They're (HO) making things harder for everyone. I wasn't aware that you needed the signature of an existing member but from my other memberships it's pretty standard practice with many clubs now otherwise anyone (with or without) a FAC could join who are not a known quantity, so many clubs are tightening up security to lower any potential risks associated with people unknown to their members joining. You can either find someone who is a member and get to know them, but the circumstances and length of time known to them would probably be looked into as a common sense check. It may seem unfair but I can see why some clubs are leaning this way. Following Catch-22's advice might help you out...speak with Simon first though to make sure you would be welcome to just show up otherwise you may find you've had a wasted trip.
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    Neck size, or full length: has the jury decided?

    Hi Laurie excellent post, and yes, what you surmised I meant was indeed what I meant. It would be interesting to see how various other FL size dies compare. I check my fire-formed using a Hornady comparitor, then set the press up so that I get about 1.5 to 2 thou', no more. This on my Lee dies seems to equate somewhere around shell holder just touching the bottom of the die plus no more than 1/8th turn and not the 1/4 Lee suggest which bumps back a smidgen too far. It will vary depending on manufacturing tolerances and this isn't surprising when you consider just how many dies are churned out from the same machinery which must be regularly checked to ensure it's within acceptable tolerances.
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    Neck size, or full length: has the jury decided?

    I like your methodology Andrew and have resorted to much the same thing now. More time practising and in the field for me has allowed real gains to be made in judging shots and shooting with more confidence. If a load shoots moa at 600 yds, for most purposes that's fine with me. If it doesn't it's more likely my loads are way out or I'm doing something wrong. Either way, FL sizing and being consistent with brass prep/loading is usually good enough to get me into moa at these distances. The rest is down to me. Having fun ringing steel in less than perfect conditions over long distances is good practice and good fun...beats fretting over group sizes!
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    Grouping issues

    You could, in some circumstances, expect a heating barrel and fast strings to have increased dispersion, especially with a light hunting profile barrel that heats up fast, the opposite of what you are experiencing here. Slower shots resulting in horizontal stringing, as Ronin suggests above, might usually signify more a technique issue. If it were a scope or mount issue (and I'm not saying it isn't) then I'd expect the same irrespective of grouping string timings. The low vertical dispersion of the horizontal string might point towards a good consistent load but the horizonal string I've only seen before like that due to two or three things: Shooter technique inconsistency, wind, or the action mounting screws needing torquing up a little. Of course, if this is happening consistently in spite of who is behind the rifle then it could also point to a barrel issue. All you can do is start with the easy to check things first and work your way through the list of possible causes until you identify the most likely.
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    Load date n140 223 , 55g

    I've tried the 60gr Vmax and despite achieving some consistently low ES figures using N133 and N140 I cannot achieve consistent accuracy with that bullet. My barrel, whatever I seem to do, only manages about 1/2 moa with it on average. I have better luck with the 69TMK which works out closer to 1/3 moa on average. I may try the 55 VMax instead and see how that goes.
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    Neck size, or full length: has the jury decided?

    Strictly speaking, there is no such thing as a truly consistent method if one gets pedantic about things. The brass will migrate from head to mouth whichever method is used, so the case internal to external dimensions will alter very slightly shot to shot along the length of the case. My own view, and I don't claim it's the right view, is that consistent neck tension and headspace is more important to my shooting than other considerations, along with consistency in internal volumes (again, within reason). I used to neck size and tried collet neck sizers such as the lee one, which was fine with my .223 for a fair few reloads without the need to FLS but with my larger cals, I ended up bumping the shoulders back every 3 to 4 reloads anyway, so reverted to FL sizing everything. I few trips out after deer where the round refused to chamber ofter just a couple of hottish reloads in.308 convinced me to just stick with full length and I have noticed little, if any real difference in my SD/ES if being honest. I start with decent brass, anneal every firing, FL size, check that headspace is no greater than 3 thou of the fire formed cases for the shoulder to chamber seating, and haven't worried about it beyond that. Comp shooters may wish to do more. The average Joe like myself probably doesn't need to worry beyond this. There can be a tendency to over think these things and forget to concentrate on shooting technique, load consistency, including checking batch to batch powder variations and tweaking loads accordingly.
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    Neck size, or full length: has the jury decided?

    I anneal and FL size everything. No missed chances in the field where the shoulders ought to have been bumped back, and for consistency. Others do things differently. There's many flavours to choose from!
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    6.5 Creedmoor - real world velocities

    Been out of things ill for months so just seen this thread. My "go to" load for CM is 44gr RS62 under a 139 Scenar/SRP brass and this results in bang on 2700fps@20 degreesC for me and from data others have supplied, closer to 42.5 to 43gr RS62 using LRP brass seems to average 2750fps to 2800fps or thereabouts (don't use the 44gr load as for the SRP brass!). Tikka Tac A1/24inch barrel/lapua SRP Brass/Murom KVB223-M primers/RS62/139Scenar
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    Load date n140 223 , 55g

    I'd echo that. N133 was better in my rifle too with this weight. Around 23.5gr seems to work well.

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