Cumbrian 1 Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 Not sure about the authenticity but if it is true then it was a hell of a shot: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/canadian-elite-special-forces-sniper-sets-record-breaking-kill-shot-in-iraq/article35415651/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tikka4Sika Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 If you send enough lead towards something eventually you will hit it, if he could do it on a regular basis then it would prove amazing ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR Chris Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 I saw the link today tooCprl Harrison did well to hold it for 8 years though :-) https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/canadian-elite-special-forces-sniper-sets-record-breaking-kill-shot-in-iraq/article35415651/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradders Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 I can't but help think this is also fake news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tikka4Sika Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 Maybe he was using the new NightForce 5-250 x 90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breacher Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 I would like to know how much energy was retained at that range. And what optic was used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCetrizine Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 The optic should have been one of these... <Wiki quote> In Canadian service, the standard telescopic sight was the McMillan endorsed Leupold Mark 4-16x40mm LR/T M1 Riflescope optical sight that has now been replaced by the Schmidt & Bender 5-25x56 PMII telescopic sight. McMillan also endorses the Nightforce NXS 8-32x56 Mil-dot telescopic sight for the Tac-50. Depending on the height of the tower block he supposedly fired from and if the reports of the bullet being an AMax are true then energy would be around 1000ft/lb with subsonic velocity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 I can't but help think this is also fake news http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/40372403 Perhaps, a little spun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 Im wondering when that bullet would start tumbling and at what range ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VarmLR Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Strange, but there seems to have been no mention of the British (SAS) sniper that took out an Isis thug from 1.5 miles just last month. I believe he was using a Chey-Tac and took a single shot to down the bad guy. If true, this Canadian record is outstanding. There's no real reason to doubt the authenticity of the reports as they do seem to have been verified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DW58 Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 I can't but help think this is also fake newsI can't help thinking that you may be wrong. The event had been formally acknowledged by the Canadian military and Department of Defence. It's worth bearing in mind that no-one has claimed this is a cold-bore kill. I'm informed that the scope used was Nightforce, but I'm not sure which model. Bear in mind the shooter is part of JTF2 (Canada's elite SF unit) and not the Green Army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grum87 Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 I can't help thinking that you may be wrong. The event had been formally acknowledged by the Canadian military and Department of Defence. It's worth bearing in mind that no-one has claimed this is a cold-bore kill. I'm informed that the scope used was Nightforce, but I'm not sure which model. Bear in mind the shooter is part of JTF2 (Canada's elite SF unit) and not the Green Army. I'd still bet they spent a good few CAD hurling lead at the bad guys before they got a connect. I'd eat my hat, your hat, and everyone in this thread's hat if that was a 1 shot wonder. Suspect it goes something a little like this; Good guys spot bad guy. Bad guy very far away. Good guys consult ballistic calculator. Calculator runs the numbers, presents them, with a little giggle to itself. Allow for windage, spin-drift, curvature of the earth, corialis and all that guff. Max out elevation turret. Hold over. Send it. Wait approximately 10 seconds for impact. Fark, did you see the splash? No, neither did I..... Try again. And again. And so on..... Still, some serious bragging rights. Wonder what sort of angle that bullet was coming in at. Steep I bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VarmLR Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Hmmmm...I wonder if bragging rights have anything to do with a soldier on a terrorist front line doing his job. That's really what this is about...a capable guy, with a capable rifle, taking a shot (or shots) that have the potential to save lives if, or when it connects. Who cares if it was "walked" in or cold bore? Soldiers don't often think like that. They just want to get the job done, and this guy got the job done by all accounts and hats off to him. However he got the shot, it was a still a hell of a shot. FWIW, I too doubt that it could have been a cold bore shot. I also think that luck has something to do with all such long range shots in as far as it only takes something minor to change and it's shot missed. To even be in the neighbourhood of hitting and taking out a bad guy, one shot or a dozen shots, at over 2 miles is still damned good shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DW58 Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 I'd still bet they spent a good few CAD hurling lead at the bad guys before they got a connect. I'd eat my hat, your hat, and everyone in this thread's hat if that was a 1 shot wonder. Suspect it goes something a little like this; Good guys spot bad guy. Bad guy very far away. Good guys consult ballistic calculator. Calculator runs the numbers, presents them, with a little giggle to itself. Allow for windage, spin-drift, curvature of the earth, corialis and all that guff. Max out elevation turret. Hold over. Send it. Wait approximately 10 seconds for impact. Fark, did you see the splash? No, neither did I..... Try again. And again. And so on..... Still, some serious bragging rights. Wonder what sort of angle that bullet was coming in at. Steep I bet. Put it this way Mr Grum - I have a Canadian pal who until recently wore a sand-coloured beret ... ... ... I suspect you're not far from the truth ... ... ... nudge-nudge-wink-wink-know what I mean ... ... ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tikka4Sika Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 I'd still bet they spent a good few CAD hurling lead at the bad guys before they got a connect. I'd eat my hat, your hat, and everyone in this thread's hat if that was a 1 shot wonder. Suspect it goes something a little like this; Good guys spot bad guy. Bad guy very far away. Good guys consult ballistic calculator. Calculator runs the numbers, presents them, with a little giggle to itself. Allow for windage, spin-drift, curvature of the earth, corialis and all that guff. Max out elevation turret. Hold over. Send it. Wait approximately 10 seconds for impact. Fark, did you see the splash? No, neither did I..... Try again. And again. And so on..... Still, some serious bragging rights. Wonder what sort of angle that bullet was coming in at. Steep I bet. I reckon you are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradders Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Just like many shooters who only ever post pics of their best groups, you never hear the stories of the Elite SAS Delta SEAL Green Beret from Mossads GSG9 Foreign Legion mountain warfare detachment who took a shot from 11456 feet with an organ pulverising cnc machined specialty round........and missed. They only ever brag about the good ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCetrizine Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 I know an ex army soldier who still gets drinks bought for him based on an amazing shot he made that saved lives. He confided in me and a few others that it was in fact a negligent discharge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breacher Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 I know an ex army soldier who still gets drinks bought for him based on an amazing shot he made that saved lives. He confided in me and a few others that it was in fact a negligent discharge. I know an ex-RM sniper doing maritime security a few years back, who turned up for his first transit and due to a cock up - no rifles were boarded. He was handed a flare pistol and told to make do. Sure enough, Somali pirates soon approached. He fired a high arcing flare as a warning. It soared up and then back down landing in the skiff and setting fire to the petrol can. Cue Somali pirates jumping out, some on fire. Of course he said it was an aimed shot to the ships master in the post contact debrief. The Company was contracted for security of their entire fleet as a result ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akeld Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 I always remember the Royal Marine who shot down a Pucara with a GPMG during the Falklands, when asked how he managed it, he replied he was aiming at the one in front of the one he hit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 I know an ex army soldier who still gets drinks bought for him based on an amazing shot he made that saved lives. He confided in me and a few others that it was in fact a negligent discharge. Ha! Wonder if I was around that: I still sometimes tell a dit about something I was on in the 90s. Chap in an OP reaching for his rifle dropped a baddie with an ND from the top of a block of flats. Looked like the world's most awesome shot .. unless you knew! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris-NZ Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Regarding this "record shot", here are some ballpark figures : 750gr with G7 of 0.37 leaving at 2700 would make for 330 MOA drop with a 200 zero and drift 28 mins in a 10mph wind at 3550yds. No scope/rail combo allows for that much come-up so they'd have to be aiming way above the target, ie WAG territory. Mr ISIS was -seriously- unlucky I'd say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Good men helping their comrades in arms by doing all they could with all they had to hand. Yup, beaten zone, I would think. Bottom line: Achieved required effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCetrizine Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Ha! Wonder if I was around that: I still sometimes tell a dit about something I was on in the 90s. Chap in an OP reaching for his rifle dropped a baddie with an ND from the top of a block of flats. Looked like the world's most awesome shot .. unless you knew! The way he tells it, he was with a squad moving along a street somewhere in Iraq when an insurgent appeared with what turned out to be a mortar tube rigged for hip fire. At that instant, he tripped and accidentally fired as he fell, killing the insurgent before he fired the mortar. The rest of the squad saw him dive to the ground with lightning reactions and save their lives with a perfect headshot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grum87 Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Bottom line: Achieved required effect. Exactly. My comments weren't trying to belittle his achievement, or his service. I do have to wonder though, how often would they bother their arse trying to take pot shots at bad guys 2 miles away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradders Posted June 24, 2017 Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 Exactly. My comments weren't trying to belittle his achievement, or his service. I do have to wonder though, how often would they bother their arse trying to take pot shots at bad guys 2 miles away. It's more a matter of shooters doing what shooters do, i.e. let's have a crack.....followed by f**k me, I've hit him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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