Fitting Gun Safe

[Avian]

My son is looking to purchase a new gun safe as his existing one is too small to take any more guns.

 

When the firearms officer visited him to check his existing one last year he said that they would have to in future be fitted to an internal rather than an external wall as fitting to external walls was no longer allowed.

 

Is that correct?

 

 

 

 

[maximus otter]

I can't say yea or nay, but it's the first I've heard of it.

 

As far as I know the manual is still the Home Office Firearms Security Handbook 2005:

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/117636/firearms-security-handbook.pdf

 

I would invite your FEO to put his finger on the relevant section in the Handbook...

 

maximus otter

[geek]

I am supprised at that, since in many newer properties most internal walls are of the partition type and therefore would not provide sufficiently secure fixings. That is certainly the case in my house where the safes are fixed to an external wall.

[Avian]

Thank you.

 

I'll give a copy of the handbook to my son so when he comes next he will have it to hand to show him

[MrCetrizine]

I think he's misunderstood exterior of the property for external wall.

[Brillo]

You'll find that the term used in HO guidelines is "Fixed to the fabric of the building" or some words like that. The guidelines specify that a garage or shed is not permissible.

I always took this to mean on an external wall because they are generally brick or similar, but it allows for any wall providing the cabinet is fixed to a permantent part of the house structure.

When I wanted a bigger cabinet fitted to an internal wall (because that's all that was practicable for me) I contacted my FEO who visited me armed with the guidelines. This guy was very knowledgeable about the subject and his only proviso was that I also bolted the cabinet to the floor.

The cabinet I have is so unbelievably heavy that it would need Superman to move it even if it wasn't fixed to the wall.

[Avian]

As has been suggested....ask the FAO to point to the relevant update in PUBLISHED security guidance

 

New bloke was it?

Nodded off in a stuffy room, post lunch, when suitable fixing points were being discussed?

Yes he was new to the job