Load Testing on Short Siberia - Bisley

[roundyuk]

Morning all,

 

I am quite new to booking targets at Bisley, have used the standard targets with my club and also the electronic targets on Century as an individual.

 

If I were to book a 100m point on Short Siberia can I put up my own target for load testing? Or am I restricted to "approved targets" ?

 

Also, assume there is nothing wrong with not having a marker, I just need to secure my rifle before i mosey on down to the butts?

[Webby]

My experience with Short Siberia is that you can use yr own targets. When I go I put up a couple of large sheets with many small targets. No marker required. Access to the butts is easy if you need it as only 100 yrds away and can be accessed live. Shooting there during the week can sometimes be difficult as the Police tend to block book but I have been successful recently after making a call to the range office.

[roundyuk]

Awesome, thanks for the advice!

[roundyuk]

Managed to book a target on Saturday for two hours, winner.

 

Will print off a few 100m targets for testing my loads :-) I selected "NRA Face" on the booking form which I assume just means that standard target backing board?

[bradders]

Managed to book a target on Saturday for two hours, winner.

 

Will print off a few 100m targets for testing my loads :-) I selected "NRA Face" on the booking form which I assume just means that standard target backing board?

 

 

In the Notes section you should tell them that you are load testing wit your own targets and to provide a blank screen

[Re-Pete]

Myself and a mate tried this at 300yds a couple of weeks ago. We booked the lane and set up 10 home designed and printed targets. These were yellow with thin black rings.

Centre ring was 0.5 MOA.

We could see the bullet holes easily, even .223's, with an 80x spotting scope, as long as the sun didn't come out !..............mirage meant game over around 11.30.

Really good results for the first couple of hours, though.

 

RePete

[roundyuk]

I selected "NRA Face" from the target list, assume that is a blank board?

 

 

 

In the Notes section you should tell them that you are load testing wit your own targets and to provide a blank scree

[bradders]

No, it's a bullseye of the appropriate size for that distance

[roundyuk]

No, it's a bullseye of the appropriate size for that distance

Ahh, whoops - i'll just pop mine over the top!

[roundyuk]

Got down to Short Siberia nice and early today, strange how "out of line" the targets feel in comparison to the firing points! The bench rest I booked wasn't on my point, and the one that was there was absolutely awful - it belonged on the bonfire, wobbled and moved all over the place; bit disappointed with that!

[Xtrema]

There are two benches to one target at Short Siberia.

I've shot there quite often and never had a wobbly bench. The supplied seats are way too low for me however.

[roundyuk]

Was rather frustrating, even reporting it via email to the NRA yielded a pretty much "thanks for letting us know" response!

 

I suppose I should have been a bit more stern and expressed how it wrote off my day basically... Even an offer of a credit on another booking would have gone miles for customer service!

[1066]

Got down to Short Siberia nice and early today, strange how "out of line" the targets feel in comparison to the firing points! The bench rest I booked wasn't on my point, and the one that was there was absolutely awful - it belonged on the bonfire, wobbled and moved all over the place; bit disappointed with that!

 

I agree - I think the benchrest set up on Short Siberia is poor to say the least. If I was a keen BR competitor, it just wouldn't be good enough. How the British Benchrest Club that regularly shoot there put up with it I really don't know.

 

100yd BR is a recognised discipline, you should be able to compete on a level playing field with any other club and compare like for like scores.

 

What do we find at our National Shooting Centre - Wonky, shaky plywood benches placed at some indeterminate distance from the targets at about 109 yards. (I believe metric BR is shot at 91 metres) and the supplied plastic chairs are far from adequate.

 

The cost of a cast concrete bench with brick pillars is minimal - certainly an easy club DIY project with slabs cast on site.

[Webby]

Sounds like you were not shooting in the covered benchrest area? Benches in there are fine.

[1066]

Sounds like you were not shooting in the covered benchrest area? Benches in there are fine.

 

I regularly shoot from the covered benches - wooden benches with a non adjustable canteen plastic chair, just good enough for a friendly club shoot but this is our National Shooting Centre. In theory you should be able to compete "by post" with any other team, anywhere in the world, just the same as the small bore postal leagues are run.

 

Only recently I saw that the times of 24,000 runners who took part in the Manchester marathon for the last three years have been discredited because the course was 380 meters too short. A 100 metre sprint is run over a 100 metre course, the UK record is 9.87 seconds, if you were a sprinter you should be able to look up the times of your opponents and compare times, like for like.

 

The British 100 yd benchrest record is .065 inches shot off the concrete benches at Diggle range. How can you possibly compare any benchrest results shot at Bisley with any international standard when there's a 10% range difference.

[bradders]

 

I regularly shoot from the covered benches - wooden benches with a non adjustable canteen plastic chair, just good enough for a friendly club shoot but this is our National Shooting Centre. In theory you should be able to compete "by post" with any other team, anywhere in the world, just the same as the small bore postal leagues are run.

 

Only recently I saw that the times of 24,000 runners who took part in the Manchester marathon for the last three years have been discredited because the course was 380 meters too short. A 100 metre sprint is run over a 100 metre course, the UK record is 9.87 seconds, if you were a sprinter you should be able to look up the times of your opponents and compare times, like for like.

 

The British 100 yd benchrest record is .065 inches shot off the concrete benches at Diggle range. How can you possibly compare any benchrest results shot at Bisley with any international standard when there's a 10% range difference.

 

The firing point on Short Siberia is 100 Metres, not 100 yards

The benches are being the firing point, so probably 105 Metres

 

Not enough people shoot Benchrest to justify it, but if you really want something done, then howzbout contacting the NRA and asking them directly, rather than ranting on about it on an Internet forum?