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Treeborne corvids: 12ftlb .177/.22 or 25ftlb .22 Air rifle?


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Poll: Air Rifles for Treeborne Corvids (42 member(s) have cast votes)

Were FACs not required for air rifles over 12ftlb in UK, would you choose an air rifle below or above 12ftlbs?

  1. I'd choose sub 12ftlb, even if something more powerful didn't need a FAC. (4 votes [9.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.76%

  2. If it didn't need a FAC, I'd choose more than 12ftlb. (37 votes [90.24%])

    Percentage of vote: 90.24%

Taking account of the difference in performance, and the difference in 'legislative hassle' between FAC and non FAC air rifles, would you choose a 12ftlb .177/.22 or a 25ftlb .22 for treeborne corvids?

  1. For treeborne corvids, I'd choose a sub 12ftlb .177 (12 votes [29.27%])

    Percentage of vote: 29.27%

  2. For treebone corvids, I'd choose a sub 12ftlb .22 (4 votes [9.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.76%

  3. For treeborne corvids, the benefits of a 25ftlb air rifle outweigh the FAC hassles. (25 votes [60.98%])

    Percentage of vote: 60.98%

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#1 brown dog

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Posted 29 March 2017 - 05:37 PM

As per the poll, grateful for thoughts.

 


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Posted 29 March 2017 - 05:41 PM

Corvids are clever Fe@k@rs
They always sit out of range regardless if you brought a 12ft/lb air rifle or a .22 rimfire...
I must carry my .204 too next time :-)



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Posted 29 March 2017 - 05:42 PM

Corvids are clever Fe@k@rs
They always sit out of range regardless if you brought a 12ft/lb air rifle or a .22 rimfire...
I must carry my .204 too next time :-)

 

I'm shooting up in the air - it needs to be a pellet gun, for my purposes :)


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Posted 29 March 2017 - 05:46 PM

They're tough to kill - I've given up in the past on Crows/Jays/Magpies where I couldn't safely use .22 rimfire. I'd say you'd be better safety-wise with a shotgun.
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Posted 29 March 2017 - 06:05 PM

Any one of the options will kill cleanly given good pellet placement and sensible ranges 40/55 y for the sub 12.ive used them all over the years but fac air makes it so much easier ,using a .25 running at 48 ftlb plenty of knock down power and can put pellet on pellet at 40 y with ease

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Posted 29 March 2017 - 06:05 PM

 

I'm shooting up in the air - it needs to be a pellet gun, for my purposes :)

ah
Then u need a 12g :-)



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Posted 30 March 2017 - 06:53 PM

They're tough to kill - I've given up in the past on Crows/Jays/Magpies where I couldn't safely use .22 rimfire. I'd say you'd be better safety-wise with a shotgun.

 

 

Agree'd, welly them with a shotgun.



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Posted 30 March 2017 - 08:13 PM

I've used an fac air rifle for years on corvids in trees.very effective way to get rid of them. Me and the brother used to wait on them coming into roost of an evening. You will always get the largest individual , who comes in first to check things are safe for the rest of them. If you shoot and miss it you won't see the rest of them.Once it gets almost dark they won't fly very far when they hear a shot being fired.Me and the brother shot 34 grey back crows in the space of 2 hours. I had a 14 ft/lb 177 daystate and he had a 30ft/lb .22. If you can hit them cleanly in the head with low powered air rifle they die instantly. With the fac air rifle anywhere from the chest up and they are a goner. I would use an fac air rifle for the purpose. As soon as you fire a shotgun they won't come anywhere near you. Very effective way to get rid of them and great fun to be had doing it imho.

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Posted 30 March 2017 - 08:50 PM

Shotgun , then you can also shoot them on the wing , only downside is noise.



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Posted 26 April 2017 - 07:57 PM

Moderated .410 then?

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Posted 27 April 2017 - 08:04 AM

ah
Then u need a 12g :-)

I've shot way more corvids of all varieties with a shotgun, decoys and a hide set-up than I've every shot with any rifle. 

Good concealment and perfectly still until time to shoot. Not a sucking eggs comment, just my observations. I'm always amazed at how far away a corvid can see such a slight movement even in a good hide.

 

Having said that, I love the odd lazy day sat in my xtrail with the radio on low on the outskirts of the farm buildings, popping off corvids with my Daystate Air Ranger, in .25 cal running around 44 ft/lb's. They always seem less suspicious around the buildings.



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Posted 18 September 2017 - 08:50 PM

Fac airguns are brilliant...if you have the use for it, same as anything.

I'm a firm believer there is a place for them, their so useful and still quiet. For wot it's worth I think a fac registered and then tuned air arms s410 classic is more useable than a factory fac one...they are soooo long, and wot you lose by de-valuing a standard one by registering it you save by spending less in the first place. Yes they give a few less shots but they are so much easier to wield around whether it be when walking, in a wood or in a vehicle

Just my experience

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Posted 11 October 2017 - 07:06 AM

I've shot them with a sub 12 lbs-ft .22 at dusk as they roost and had some success.  A well moderated air rifle is s good way of knocking them down and the sub 12 is just that little bit quieter than the higher energy ones.  Also set up a hide on the edge of a wood and had them with shotguns as they come into roost.  This was by far the more effective method as loads were shot in the space of an hour or two.  For problematical crow problems, a Larsen trap I think is the most effective means of controlling Corvid numbers though.



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Posted 11 October 2017 - 09:48 AM

Only Just seen this, i do the same kind of thing and i use 2 Fac air rifles  a Theoben Rapid mk2 .20 rated at 28 ft lbs Pigeons crows magpies etc, i'm getting about 100 shots @ full power with this and it's spot on for most situations, the other one i have is a FX Bobcat .30 rated @ 77 ft lbs with 46gr pellets or 85 ft lbs with 50 pellet, but you need to be careful with this and i only use it in larger trees where you can guarantee a good back stop, but just shoot at the biggest part and they come down no problem.






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