527vamint Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 I'm currently pondering over weather to sell my 357 and 223 and acquiring a ar15 type rifle. It will need to be suitable for foxing as that's what I use my 223 for,but mainly for target work at 100m and 300m. We do some club competitions which are set at 100m, they are prone off your elbows no bipod or rests and 10 shots in 90 seconds. At the moment Im terrible at it, as I can't seem to recover from chambering the next round and changing the mag. So if I was to go for an ar which ones are best to go for,barrel length, twist rate and do I go 223Ai as I read you can use 223 ammo and the 5.56mm stuff. I have all the gear for loading standard 223. I have used a Bradley arms bar 15, I think it was called and to me it seemed quite well built. Any pointers would be greatfull. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCetrizine Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 Mark Bradley who made that BAR 15 is on here as Bradders drop him a PM or wait for him to sense an AR thread with the black rifle force. I'm sure he or Dave Wylde of Valyrie rifles (Baldie on here) will be best placed to give you advice as they make them and shoot them. All I can tell you is I love mine and want another which is unhelpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
527vamint Posted June 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 Thanks for that, it's looking at the work the two mentioned above got the mind pondering. So bradders makes the bar 15 and baldie makes the others. I will have nose at the websites again. As said I don't know anything about them really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradders Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 I felt a disturbance in the force....I'm here waiting Mr Varmint, ask away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbal Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 527-as advice given-Mark and Dave are your experts here-especially for range use. You will not benefit from an Ackley Improved chambering-another 100 fps is of no consequence for fox,or 300 yards ranges (and especially in a man op AR15); but do consider a 'Wylde' chamber (not Dave Wylde-but ask him) since you mention using 223 commercial and 5.56 mil ammo-you can have more confidence in the Wylde chamber,with less chance of sticky extraction (that may be what you really meant,anyhow?) You won't need to change magazines for ten rounds,so that's one issue solved;man op is probably easier than bolt with some practice. AR15s are often rested on their large magazine -if allowed,that helps. I'd consider a fairly short barrel for maneuverability in foxing,if it's from a cab or restricted space-and a 1 in 8 would keep most ammo (bullet weight) options open-but ask Dave and Mark for current target preferences. But it is try and see,for how it feels,as ever. You have nothing to gain from a long barrel (22/24 is common in bolt actions,but most ARs are shorter. Remember a moderator will add a few inches. No doubt experienced foxers will chip in on any detail points on AR15 use.But ballistically-what kills foxes-it's a 223 like any other,once the bullet leaves the barrel,though not the cheapest tool for that job. Dont get too tied into all the bells and whistles-bear in mind what you want to do with it-you want one stock eg,that you like-if there are another 20 you don't,someone else might,but so what? gbal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
527vamint Posted June 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 Thanks for that goal I did mean Wylde. Bradders,the Bradley arms bar 15 I shot,is that something you have on the shelf, or is it a special order, what would you recommend as in barrel length and twist and which bullet if I was to load for it,or is it better using the mill surplus stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradders Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 Thanks for that goal I did mean Wylde. Bradders,the Bradley arms bar 15 I shot,is that something you have on the shelf, or is it a special order, what would you recommend as in barrel length and twist and which bullet if I was to load for it,or is it better using the mill surplus stuff. I usually have most parts on the shelf inc barrels, and as I am only 20 mins away from the London proof house, getting something rustled up pronto is b=never a problem Personally speaking, if all shooting is to be done at medium distance =s then I'd always recommend a 16" barrel in a fast twist, I use 1:8s as that is always more than you need and anything faster is wasted and slower will handicap you. With that you can shoot any commercially available bullet up to 80gn (82 also) 77 SMKs are hard to beat, but you can also shoot good surplus with acceptable results...depending on your needs Something along these lines would do the job all day long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
527vamint Posted July 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 Thanks for that,I'm not ready to buy at the moment, need to make room and free the slot,flo is happy about the one for one from 223 bolt to straight pull 223 Wylde. Its going to take a few months to sort everything out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowji john Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 Though you never hear it on this forum Southern Gun Company make excellent AR 15 type rifles Accurate barrels - match, sport or hunting Look em up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowsider Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 I have a Hera arms one arriving soon. Cannot wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangely Brown Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 Though you never hear it on this forum Southern Gun Company make excellent AR 15 type rifles Accurate barrels - match, sport or hunting And rather heavy I'm given to understand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowsider Posted August 26, 2016 Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 Well my Hera arms has arrived. Put some bits on the girl but more to follow. Image is at www.howroyd.co.uk/hera.jpg. Sorry don't have a clue how to insert from iPad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCetrizine Posted August 26, 2016 Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 Like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowsider Posted August 26, 2016 Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 Doh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradders Posted August 26, 2016 Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 You just couldn't wait to put a **pod on there, could you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 I felt a disturbance in the force. It surrounds us and binds us , remember - there is no 'try' only ' do ' regards -Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuggy Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 Like bipods he doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradders Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 Like bipods he doesn't. Chuck Norris is weeping baby orphans tears tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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