Swarovski1 Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Ive always used cluson lamps,1 million and 2 million candle power, recommend me on what to go for, led seems good, longer the beam reaches out the better really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonl Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 beam preference - tight or flood? rifle mounted? hand held? vehicle mounted? Forget candlepower - it's a meaningless figure. There's a new standard which defines the distance at which it'll light to the same extent as a full moon. Top end stuff does maybe 800m. The other metric for comparison is Lumens. A single car headlight is about 1300 Lumens, for comparative purposes. The latest TK75 torch from Fenix is about the size of half a Pringles can & emits a maximum 4000 Lumens from 4 x 18650 batteries. It can cook a rabbit before you've even shot it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkyboy Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Just looked at the american website...seriously bright lamp...you wouldnt want to look at it up close it would poach your eyeballs...Any body in uk sell them...Hugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swarovski1 Posted November 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Oh sorry a held lamp.ive got a deben 22amp lithium ion battery to power it. that is a great lamping battery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonl Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Oh sorry a held lamp.ive got a deben 22amp lithium ion battery to power it. that is a great lamping battery Does this have a 12v fag lighter socket? ah - you're from Bath - might be called a cigar lighter there.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckhurstBen Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Lightforce hid lamps are very good if you want a tight beam that shines a good distance. Not cheap but worth the money. Iv got a roof mounted striker that I brought off a member on here. With the 75 watt bulb, 5000 kelvin colour spectrum it throws a brilliant white light out to a stupid distance. Would recommend it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris-NZ Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 If you want a --serious-- hand-held that can be mounted on a gun and has more light output than a LF170, here's the thing: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/MAXTOCH-Sniper-M24-Lighter-Version-of-SN6X-2S-AR-Lens-Copper-LED-Base-Longer-Shooting-Distance/1769281159.html?spm=2114.01020208.3.1.eLaWyS&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_6_79_78_77_80,searchweb201644_5,searchweb201560_8 It's small enough to mount on a rifle (65mm head diam, ~250 long) and has all the power you'll ever need. The mid power setting has more grunt than a LF170 and the pair of 18650s will do nearly two hours at mid power. There is enough peripheral flood to quickly scan a field yet the centre spot has serious reach. Deer at 300yds stand out like dogs kahoonas. The latest version comes de-domed so fully good to go. They were developed by a close collaboration between some Kiwi pro pest guys and the Chinese manufacturer. Anyone that sees them in action knows that "cords are dead". My LF 170/140/SLAs are all now redundant. These have become the default spottie in NZ for those in the know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swarovski1 Posted November 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Not sure I am ready to give up the deben 22 amp lithium ion battery yet, fits in my pocket just nice,, ive been using telephone cord wire lamps for 16 or 17 years now,not in any hurry to change that, cluson make a led 750yd beam lamp,probaly give that a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonl Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 This one I guess (LA11) LED LazerliteReference: LA11 The brightest and whitest single 25watt LED hand held lamp available on the market with an incredible 750m beam. Powered by any 12v DC supply with everlasting LED. Frankly, I don't believe their figure of 750m from something that size without an aspheric head. They say it's not only the BRIGHTEST but also the WHITEST hand help lamp based on a single 25W LED. I expect that'll be because nobody else uses a 25W single die LED unless they want to floodlight a warehouse, not a distant fox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris-NZ Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 The light colouration is definitely an issue. Some colours cut through mist -way- better than others. Total lumens doesn't tell the whole story. The M24s I mention will happily show deer eyes well past 600yds. I'd have no trouble accurately aiming at a deer under 400yds with this light. I realise deer lamping isn't de rigeur in the UK but it's common here. Foxes would be dead easy for this torch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swarovski1 Posted November 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 I had the 25w led cluson lamp come today, took it out and compared it with my 100w xenon cluson lamp and its nowhere near as good as the 100w xenon cluson, I was very disappointed, it will have to go back, naughty mr cluson,750yd beam my arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuggy Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 The light colouration is definitely an issue. Some colours cut through mist -way- better than others. Total lumens doesn't tell the whole story. The M24s I mention will happily show deer eyes well past 600yds. I'd have no trouble accurately aiming at a deer under 400yds with this light. I realise deer lamping isn't de rigeur in the UK but it's common here. Foxes would be dead easy for this torch. Well I took a punt based on the recommendation from Chris and ordered an M24 from China. Well - it is a 'frikkin laser beam'! Very impressive and the quality seems very nice for the price. Only two minor problems so far. My cells are a very tight fit in the body. I have to dissasemble the shaft from the head and poke them out with a pencil. The other is that if you use it to illuminate the ground at your feet, the reflection from the ground is so bright that you are dazzled by the glare! Clicking it on to low or medium solves that problem and means that the cells will last a bit longer too. It's well over the top for walking the dog, but I'm quite enjoying pretending to be a searchlight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris-NZ Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Good to hear Shuggy. The protected 3400mAHr Panasonics are the go for these. As you've no doubt discovered, there is the -looong- centre beam but it also has a good peripheral flood for quick scanning of paddocks. You can get concentrated laser beam torches with huge reach BUT they're hopeless for a quick scan of paddocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swarovski1 Posted November 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 The cluson led did have a good shoulder strap system meaning you can let go of it and warm your fingers up, longrange na, if anything it lights up a wider area than my 100w xenon cluson, exact opposite than I expected, a mate had a lamp that shone a long narrow beam like I want, he sold it, didnt like it, will ask the questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Do people find the white LED light more difficult to spot things, I've started comparing against a 170 light force and find the yellower (if that's a word) light better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuggy Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Good to hear Shuggy. The protected 3400mAHr Panasonics are the go for these. As you've no doubt discovered, there is the -looong- centre beam but it also has a good peripheral flood for quick scanning of paddocks. You can get concentrated laser beam torches with huge reach BUT they're hopeless for a quick scan of paddocks I use the Xtar 3400mAh, which are really Panasonics with added short circuit protection. This obviously makes them a little thicker, hence the tight fit. The beam within a flood feature is very good indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris-NZ Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 Shuggy- here's a message from Mike ("Mudgripz") about the M24: ------------- Hello ChrisTell yr English mate with tight battery tube to contact Amanda at Maxtoch. She says she will send him a new batt tube.amanda@maxtoch.cnTell him to mention 'Mike'. Maxtoch is expanding size of all new tubes now.Cheers, Mike ----------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuggy Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 Wow - that's pretty impressive. I have dropped her an email. Please say thank you to Mike from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris-NZ Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 Our pleasure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuggy Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Well, I had a very prompt reply from Amanda at Maxtoch, with a promise of a new tube and a thank-you for helping them to improve their product. Customer service doesn't get much better than that! Thanks again Chris for your help with the grapevine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swarovski1 Posted December 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 I took a chance on the deben 210 light this time.its way better than my old 2 million candle power cluson but thats expected with a reflector twice the size.cluson lamp will now be the spare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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