brown dog Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 Been thinking and googling around storing sufficient calories; the answer to me is white rice and white flour. (eg, 1kg dry white rice will yield 3,500kcal; 1kg white flour = 3640kcal) The web is full of people tipping the products into mylar bags, adding O2 absorbers etc and all looks rather unnecessarily 'hassly'. My idea,: Bung an unopened 1.5kg bag of flour (or rice) into a vacuum sealing bag, bung in an 02 absorber, vacuum seal. Job done: 10 year shelf life. Thoughts? (Any pointers to decent vacuum sealers that'll take bags that are big enough?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan7510 Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 FoodSaver® FSFSSL3840 - http://www.foodsaver.co.uk/product.aspx?pid=14006 Superb machine, used to repack and vacuum seal my ice when it was nearing expiration. Nice thick bags, does a great job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted April 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 FoodSaver® FSFSSL3840 - http://www.foodsaver.co.uk/product.aspx?pid=14006 Superb machine, used to repack and vacuum seal my ice when it was nearing expiration. Nice thick bags, does a great job Thanks, that looks to be the one! Were you doing the same sort of thing as I've outlined? Bothering with 02 absorbers as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan7510 Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 Did not bother with o2 absorber, but a friend of mine into food storage advised I should have... (starting to rethink my strategy going forward, have quite a few more to seal, so might look at the o2 absorbers) the vaccum sealer is really good, I mean really, really good. The bags that food saver sell are thick bags, I just checked my stock this past week I sealed about 6 months ago and the bags are still fine. http://www.mediafire.com/view/vwzob7zcsv9zhzq/IMG_2776.JPG http://www.mediafire.com/view/zbtxhbf9uz6dc9g/IMG_2777.JPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted July 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 Had a quick 'first go' with my foodsaver, which arrived today (my O2 absorbers arrived a while back- individually sealed sachets from amazon). First up were 3 separate normal bags of white flour - bunged them in unopened on the premise that the air would still get sucked out of them - and also bunged in an 02 absorber with each. Biffed the first one slightly - finger trouble getting the seal right. The second two vacuumed down to hard bricks of flour. Quite confidence inspiring! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stacka Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 I used to seal my own ration packs up. My wife would cook them on the weekend. And then when I returned for a week in the field at a well know school in Brecon I had a yummy well cook meal much to the jealousy of my comrades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted July 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Had a quick 'first go' with my foodsaver, which arrived today (my O2 absorbers arrived a while back- individually sealed sachets from amazon). First up were 3 separate normal bags of white flour - bunged them in unopened on the premise that the air would still get sucked out of them - and also bunged in an 02 absorber with each. Biffed the first one slightly - finger trouble getting the seal right. The second two vacuumed down to hard bricks of flour. Quite confidence inspiring! Rock solid. You can see the O2 absorber in the left bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris-NZ Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 Once you've used a decent vacuum sealer, you'd never be without one. Bit like a remote garage door opener. All my game meat and fish gets the treatment. Fish that's pretty much b*ggered after three months in a std plastic bag can be like new after six months under vacuum. We ate some groper the other night I caught in December and it was mint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbal Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 Chris, 'mint'-that would be a vegetarians dream.....but it would also go well with lamb, likewise stored,in a sauce. You could try some lead,and see if it turns to gold,or better yet,some modest powder and see if turns to Varget,which is still out of season over here. :-) bon appetit gbal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan7510 Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 Brown Dog - where did you get your O2 absorbers from? Which ones did you buy? Also to other members, I have one of the Foods Savers as does Brown dog, I can vouch for it. I was in Costco today in Reading and they have them at £99.99 + VAT which comes in at around £119.98. This is a really good price considering mine cost me around £150. They also had the 2 pack vaccum rolls there for 9.99 + VAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted August 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 Brown Dog - where did you get your O2 absorbers from? Which ones did you buy? http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B009L4HPFY?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00 - I've now also discovered that it does the most incredible BBQ marinading! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryh Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 Matt, question - what are you going to make with the flour? I'm sitting here thinknig you've found tinned margarine - yes? T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted August 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 Matt, question - what are you going to make with the flour? I'm sitting here thinknig you've found tinned margarine - yes? T Bread. Food oils work as a butter substitute for bread making. Vegetable oil is cheap and stores for a couple of years. Coconut oil stores for about 7 years, but doesn't 'dual role' as well for general cooking as it has a low smoke temperature. A 500ml jar of coconut oil is enough for 10 loaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryh Posted August 29, 2015 Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 Matt, Longer discussion needed next time we meet. 'we' as in my good lady who's the cook, can see a problem in the physical side of baking bread, even with an oil fired AGA, the strong flour required for bread has less uses. Agree flour has high cal content and can be stored but feel 'scones' are simpler food to make? Working on a revised schedule of stored food basics & menus. T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted August 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 Matt, Longer discussion needed next time we meet. 'we' as in my good lady who's the cook, can see a problem in the physical side of baking bread, even with an oil fired AGA, the strong flour required for bread has less uses. Agree flour has high cal content and can be stored but feel 'scones' are simpler food to make? Working on a revised schedule of stored food basics & menus. T 1 tablespoon white sugar 2 1/2 teaspoons (1 package) yeast 1 cup lukewarm water 2 1/2 cups (11 1/4 oz) all purpose flour 1 teaspoon salt 2 tablespoons olive oil (tesco even have tinned yeast) Full detail here: http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2010/05/bread-baking-the-simplest-white-bread-recipe-ever.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundoc Posted August 29, 2015 Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 You can get tinned butter from Germany (conserva.de) As to bread, just make bannock instead. Quick and easy. I make up ziplock bags before I go out, just add water and mix to a dough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryh Posted August 29, 2015 Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 OK,Understand the receipt - how do 'you' bake it? My 'plans' were around no electricity which in our oil fired AGA gives reduced heat so 'scones' are simpler. T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted August 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 in extremis: wood stove outside -made a decent pizza oven a couple of times with a bunch of bricks and two paving slabs - very easy. Would then cook as buns rather than loaf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundoc Posted August 29, 2015 Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 thats the beauty of Bannock, twist it round a stick, or cook it in a hot pan, almost like stodgy pancake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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