brown dog Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 Of UKV's 25,000 monthly individual visitors who, presumably, 'like' UKV, only 88 have 'liked' the UKV facebook page. For a variety of geek internet reasons, facebook 'likes' help this forum - so we'd be grateful for your help in getting a shed-load more: If you're one of the 1000s who enjoy UKV each month, please take a tiny moment of time to click here and 'like' and 'share' the UKV facebook page: UKV Facebook Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcampbellsmith Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 Facebook is something I avoid like the plague for personal and professional reasons. It's day will pass fortunately. Regards JCS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 Done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnery Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 I am the same as a lot of other people Matt don't like Facebook at all I give it a wide berth sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted November 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 Facebook ......... It's day will pass fortunately. Pretty similar to what the former CEO of Kodak said about digital cameras To those who 'do' FB; please drive on: Of UKV's 25,000 monthly individual visitors who, presumably, 'like' UKV, only 88 have 'liked' the UKV facebook page. For a variety of geek internet reasons, facebook 'likes' help this forum - so we'd be grateful for your help in getting a shed-load more: If you're one of the 1000s who enjoy UKV each month, please take a tiny moment of time to click here and 'like' and 'share' the UKV facebook page: UKV Facebook Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borisserge Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 I "do" facebook, but I rather not advertise to the world, or my professional life that i hold firearms. Of the people that do know me via fb, few know I shoot, but the ones do, are also shooters. It's fantastic that the UKV have a fb page, but for now, i can't press "like".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted November 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 To those who can: Of UKV's 25,000 monthly individual visitors who, presumably, 'like' UKV, only 88 have 'liked' the UKV facebook page. For a variety of geek internet reasons, facebook 'likes' help this forum - so we'd be grateful for your help in getting a shed-load more: If you're one of the 1000s who enjoy UKV each month, please take a tiny moment of time to click here and 'like' and 'share' the UKV facebook page: UKV Facebook Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuggy Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 For the record, I don't particularly like Facebook either, only using it for a few specific purposes. However it is very easy to edit the privacy of your 'Likes', controlling who can see them. See here: https://www.facebook.com/help/100522066706974 I 'Liked' the UKV page a while ago, confident that I could do so without messing up my privacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSG Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 I think I have liked it! Of course I use an assumed identity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brillo Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 Happy to do what BD asks and have done but what help does UKV need. It's a fantastic forum, well subscribed to so does it need 'likes' from Facebook? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted November 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 Happy to do what BD asks and have done but what help does UKV need. It's a fantastic forum, well subscribed to so does it need 'likes' from Facebook? Afraid it's just a reflection of how internet geeks designed their internet geek magic to work. Of UKV's 25,000 monthly individual visitors who, presumably, 'like' UKV, only 88 have 'liked' the UKV facebook page. For a variety of geek internet reasons, facebook 'likes' help this forum - so we'd be grateful for your help in getting a shed-load more: If you're one of the 1000s who enjoy UKV each month, please take a tiny moment of time to click here and 'like' and 'share' the UKV facebook page: UKV Facebook Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch_egg Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 Gents and ladies, I am not an FB user, the better half is. She now supports ukv. Also get the kids involved to support our hobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visiter1 Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 done , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylan5588 Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 Done, although i detest facebook, twitter etc, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenthief Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 Of UKV's 25,000 monthly individual visitors who, presumably, 'like' UKV, only 88 have 'liked' the UKV facebook page. For a variety of geek internet reasons, facebook 'likes' help this forum - so we'd be grateful for your help in getting a shed-load more: If you're one of the 1000s who enjoy UKV each month, please take a tiny moment of time to click here and 'like' and 'share' the UKV facebook page: UKV Facebook Thanks How does it help? Do they cough up money or is it an imaginary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCetrizine Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 When you like something such as the UKV page, you'll get related adverts in your news feed. If you click that and in most cases also buy something then UKV should get some money. The general opinion of businesses though is that Facebook adverts are mostly ignored or blocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted November 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 When you like something such as the UKV page, you'll get related adverts in your news feed. If you click that and in most cases also buy something then UKV should get some money. The general opinion of businesses though is that Facebook adverts are mostly ignored or blocked. So many negative waves No, there's no money in it for the UKV page. Funnily enough, for work reasons and completely unrelated to this (UKV had a FB page with a large following for several years that mysteriously got taken down a month or two ago spilt milk) I spent the day at Google and youtube on Tue, Across the google/youtube/FB space, not sure your deductions could be further from the truth. For eg, In UK we watch more online vid per head than any other country in the world, and Youtube has greater reach than Channel 4; and, unlike Ch 4 the ads are individually targeted according to user 'taste' - which may answer some people's consternation as to why they keep seeing mature dating and russian bride adverts How does it help? Quite unlike any conspiracy theory, the benefit is largely one of increasing UKV's web gravity. There's more geekery to it than that, but that's it at the 'headline' level, but there's no downside - and there's no financial benefit to UKV from FB. Anyway. 'THANKS!' to people who've kindly clicked so far Of UKV's 25,000 monthly individual visitors who, presumably, 'like' UKV, only 88 have 'liked' the UKV facebook page. For a variety of geek internet reasons, facebook 'likes' help this forum - so we'd be grateful for your help in getting a shed-load more: If you're one of the 1000s who enjoy UKV each month, please take a tiny moment of time to click here and 'like' and 'share' the UKV facebook page: UKV Facebook Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCetrizine Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 I'm not saying online adverts don't work. I'm saying ones on Facebook largely don't. My other half is in marketing and the figures support it. It's just the wrong environment for adverts. They work on YouTube and they work when they are related to the site they are on but even user targeted ads have a much lower effectiveness on Facebook for some reason. If UKV aren't getting money from ads on Facebook then you should sort out an affiliated advert setup. You won't get a lot but every little helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbal Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 What,if possible in dictionary English,does 'web gravity' mean or refer to ? Or is it a 'need to know' geek talk-my daughter is in this game,big time-and it seems to me that there are all sorts of assumptions etc built in to varied useges of related(?) concepts-CitiBank web gravity is clearly a measure of a vendors success-but oddly weighted....selling one yesterday gets virtually the same score as selling a dozen a fortnight ago-Black Friday gone accountant crazy to me.... in academia,a bum is on a seat for a year..simples... Not that I care,just curious... g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted November 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 I'm not saying online adverts don't work. I'm saying ones on Facebook largely don't. My other half is in marketing and the figures support it. It's just the wrong environment for adverts. They work on YouTube and they work when they are related to the site they are on but even user targeted ads have a much lower effectiveness on Facebook for some reason. If UKV aren't getting money from ads on Facebook then you should sort out an affiliated advert setup. You won't get a lot but every little helps. Depends how people measure their marketing. "50% of my marketing works, but I don't know which 50%" There's a temptation amongst many marketeers to think that because online advertising allows click through to be measured they've discovered a way of measuring marketing effect; but they're failing the understand the rather more ethereal effect of placing a brand 'front of mind' ......they don't expect click through from a magazine advert, but they think a web advert is somehow different. It's a failure to appreciate the 2nd or third order questions; not 'what's the data?' but 'what does the data mean?', and 'what valid deductions can be drawn from it?'. It's the difference between information and intelligence or between data and insight. No blanket statement can be applied to any advertising medium as being more or less effective across all requirements, it depends on what's being advertised, why it's being advertised and the intended effect of the ad. I'm sure you'd find FB massively outperforms some channels in some niches and the achievement of some effects, and underperforms in others. 'It all depends' - you need the insight, not just the data Anyway. I have zero interest in debating this or receiving web advice the purpose of this thread is to ask likers of UKV to like UKV's facebook page. Not to explain the workings of the web, nor the learnings I have derived from a lifetime spent as a targeteer as well as, along the way, being responsible for the planning of the Army's national marketing for almost 5 years. Please, if you like UKV, 'like' UKV's facebook page. Nothing deeper than that Please click here, then 'like': https://www.facebook.com/ukvarminting Please also 'Invite your friends' to like it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted November 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 Bump. 480 views on this thread; only 17 new likes (but 'thank you!' to who those who did! ) Please, if you like UKV, 'like' UKV's facebook page. Please click here, then 'like': https://www.facebook.com/ukvarminting Please also 'Invite your friends' to like it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 Why do you think the take up is so low? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted November 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 Why do you think the take up is so low? Apathy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCetrizine Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 It's more likely a lack of a Facebook account. I only have one for my shooting club and never use it for anything else. Out of the 30 or so family and friends in my social circle, all of which are in their tech savvy 20-30s, about 5% use Facebook. Incidentally, I did "Like" the UKV page for what it's worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted December 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Thanks and Bump: Please, if you like UKV, 'like' UKV's facebook page. Please click here, then 'like': https://www.facebook.com/ukvarminting Please also 'Invite your friends' to like it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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