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Shot 3 more foxes last night around are baiting point,they were all young cubs the last that i shot was very small must be from a 2nd litter What i cant understand is were are the parents ,have not shot a full grown fox for a while now has anyone else had the same

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Shot 3 more foxes last night around are baiting point,they were all young cubs the last that i shot was very small must be from a 2nd litter What i cant understand is were are the parents ,have not shot a full grown fox for a while now has anyone else had the same

a vixen only has 1 litter a year.

the cubs are now being pushed out from the area where they were born by the vixen and they are hunting for themselves so seek "new" ground .thats why when you think your on top of them a few more spring up usually cubs.

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a vixen only has 1 litter a year.

the cubs are now being pushed out from the area where they were born by the vixen and they are hunting for themselves so seek "new" ground .thats why when you think your on top of them a few more spring up usually cubs.

Bingo...

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a vixen only has 1 litter a year.

the cubs are now being pushed out from the area where they were born by the vixen and they are hunting for themselves so seek "new" ground .thats why when you think your on top of them a few more spring up usually cubs.

 

Yes I agree, we are knocking a lot of cubs over now. Still the odd adult a night.

 

Gaz

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Snares are the way to pick up the parents and any other adults in the area.

They are the ones that are normally lamp or infra red shy

 

Make sure when you are using snares that you stick to the letter of the law

we don't need any plonkers doing illegal things and jeopardising the future use of snares

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I only use snares as a last resort, I understand why keepers use them a lot but for me it's only if I can't get a problem fox, sitting out early mornings and evenings I find a good way to get the crafty adults

 

Gaz

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in my experience the more you shoot, the more will come , any animal that needs a territory to survive will always push into an unoccupied one a resident pair will keep their territory defended and push away outsiders/transient foxes, remove that pair or one of them and you leave the way open for more to come in

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in my experience the more you shoot, the more will come , any animal that needs a territory to survive will always push into an unoccupied one a resident pair will keep their territory defended and push away outsiders/transient foxes, remove that pair or one of them and you leave the way open for more to come in

"shoot one fox and two will come to its funeral"

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Landkeeper:

That resident pair of foxes may keep out other foxes, but how many of my pheasants would they kill while I give them safe sanctuary.

never mind the impact they will have on other creatures in the vicinity, they are not vegetarian!!

They have a particular taste for young leverets.

 

The best way I have found is to persecute the local fox population as much as possible, they are intelligent and adaptable enough that I will never-ever shoot the last one here.

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Landkeeper:That resident pair of foxes may keep out other foxes, but how many of my pheasants would they kill while I give them safe sanctuary.never mind the impact they will have on other creatures in the vicinity, they are not vegetarian!!They have a particular taste for young leverets.The best way I have found is to persecute the local fox population as much as possible, they are intelligent and adaptable enough that I will never-ever shoot the last one here.

This is quite an intriguing issue.I have never been a gamekeeper,though have some limited experience of it generally.I have studied ecology.Now,I didn't pick up on any suggestion that safe sanctuary was optimal,but I'm pen to education on just how predation of foxes (shooting them) actually works,given some of the observations from experienced foxers.

Assuming that fox numbers follow the typical population drivers,ie food supply (I realise there are others-favourable breeding season, or catastrophic disease etc),then how does removing the 'residents' work,in detail,if their place is taken by some new itinerant foxes looking for their own patch?

I can see that if the residents are shot on Monday night,and the replacements don't come in til the following Friday,then three nights worth of poults/leverets etc will be saved. Is that it? If the shooting is maintained,these gains are repeated,and that estate/farm benefits,and it acts a a classic 'sink'-brings in new stuff,which is flushed away-maybe benefitting (draining??) the surrounds?Or is it like the astute statistical comment in Zulu (first attack,"at least 60 shot!!"-"Only 39,940 left,then." (I'm only referring to the numbers,nothing else implied.) If replacement come sooner/later then there will be correspondingly less/more predation prevented.

 

Are figures like UK fox population 250,000;culled 10% reasonably guides (mostly by Gaz et al :-))

 

Generally,I take the view that conservation means good management..It's true but allows flexibility, especially when there are substantial human interventions.

 

Well keepered estates of course try to control a wide spectrum of predators on game,as part of a wider game conservation program.

 

Is there any good research on fox control?

 

Gbal

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