Mossberg .22 LR

[Guest Stacka]

Just been searching around for a cheap .22 Lr for a job and bumped into a Mossber .22LR Package with scope for £225 that surely must be too good to be true?

 

any one have any ideas what they shoot like

[Finman]

The worst ever EVER rifle I had the misfortune to hunt with was a Mossberg! I'm sure you can do better than this piece of excrement, a used CZ can't be more than that and it will definitely be better, hell, a catapult would be better

 

All the best

 

Finman

[Guest Stacka]

iv just had a new CZ in the end, £500 all in

[Finman]

Makes good sense! Enjoy it, it's a good rifle,

 

Best wishes

 

Finman

[Montey]

A second hand Sako fin fire will set you back £600 but what a rifle had mine years and still holds a good zero

[hunter87]

I have a finn fire myself feels like an adult sized rifle and not like a kids sized one like most other .22lrs

[Finman]

I saw a Sako Finnfire for sale recently, next to the hen's teeth box and the rocking horse manure sack...anyone with any sense and not in dire straits will not be selling their Finnfire, I know I'm not

 

Best of luck,

 

Finman

[varmint hunter]

I have old beesa.a supersport...pick um for a song... a good accurate rifle..superb build quality as accurate as any off the above and a lot less wonga...

[dylan5588]

I saw a Sako Finnfire for sale recently, next to the hen's teeth box and the rocking horse manure sack...anyone with any sense and not in dire straits will not be selling their Finnfire, I know I'm not

 

Best of luck,

 

Finman

There are two finfires on John Bradshaws site, a .22 and a .17

Aj

[Guest Stacka]

off on a tangent is a semi auto .22LR any less accurate than a bolt. On the basis of taking your time with each shot

[Finman]

Not only...the stiffness of the bolt action is ensuring a more consistent shot-to shot accuracy. Bolt action is the way to go if you want an accurate rifle.

 

Best wishes

 

Finman

[Ronin]

Got my Anschutz 1416 for sale in the classifieds...

[baldie]

A semi auto is always going to be less accurate than a bolt action for one very simple reason. The cartridge gas is used to cycle the action, and the action can require more or less , gas, to cycle it dependant on hot or cold, dry or wet, clean or dirty.

[Biathlonjimmy]

Got my Anschutz 1416 for sale in the classifieds...

Stacka, Not that I've seen or shot the above, I got an Anschutz 1451 (very old) with mod for £350 with a lovely walnut stock. Fantastic rifle, very accurate, lightweight so great for bunnies, corvids etc. For the price the above could be an excellent purchase.

[gbal]

A semi auto is always going to be less accurate than a bolt action for one very simple reason. The cartridge gas is used to cycle the action, and the action can require more or less , gas, to cycle it dependant on hot or cold, dry or wet, clean or dirty.

An interesting point,Dave.Quite a few explanations have been put forward over the years for the generally accepted poorer semi auto accuracy,and I'd expect the whole truth to include most of them,in differing degrees for different semi aautos.

The gas differences would apply to getting the cartridge into the chamber,but maybe not thereafter- (a sub variety of the gas op explanation is the 'violent into battery' nature of the cartridge reloading-ie distorts the cartridge)-but once chambered,the action seems less pausibly the cause?There are of course the poorer bolt fit etc,maybe less precise chambers etc etc....

 

We can't really get at this from eg pistol use-semi auto pistols probably dominated accuracy competition,but their alternative was the revolver,not the bolt action-and the very few bolt action pistols ((remXP eg) were really short rifles...so not a fair comparison.

One possible answer might be to look at manual operated variations of gas semis-where much of the engineering-receiver/barrel etc is pretty similar,but chamber loading is not...they don't seem to be much more accurate...or at least not to bolt action standards....?

 

One angle is to ask if anyone-I mean custom smith,Dave,has ever made high spec gas operated rifles-there have been plenty 'better than govt issue' ones,but really up there with custom bolt actions? And if so,were they of comparable to custom bolt action accuracy....(not just very good,for a semi-and not just the exceptional/one off which was close...)

.....Bearing in mind that not all bolt actions are the same either-the precision engineering etc varies by design/price,with generally correlated accuracy.

 

It is more straightforward with 22rf-top quality bolt actions are more accurate.Cheap bolts are not as good as the very few quality semis can be made to shoot.....and such custom semis won't be much different from good bolt actons,and cheap semis may well be the least accurate....