gaz6br Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 I've just got some 52gr amax to try in my 223 ackley and a tub of benchmark, has anyone tryed these before and how did they do cheers Gaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pork chop Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 never used them myself gaz but they do get used to good effect,should be a good combo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyw Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 used them in my .22br -good splat factor on bunnys-charlie fell over never got back up! treat them as a vmax. cant help with actual load data . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onehole Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 I've just got some 52gr amax to try in my 223 ackley and a tub of benchmark, has anyone tryed these before and how did they do cheers Gaz Seen lots of instant kills at around 400 to 450 yards max with these heads in a straight 223 and doing 3350 appx. 24.5/133.No evidence of rapid expansion at these ranges but 50gvmax are pretty much the same.Sub 200 yarders ,,,,,,yeah,,,,same as v max,,,,,,,,,,,,Onehole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swamp Donkey Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 I'd be tempted to get the 53 gr vmax if possible. No difference in killing ability, but a far better bc to help with the longer shots. But, back to your question, yes, I've used them, and they do the job. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missed Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 I have used them for avian and marine pests both to very good effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 I'd be tempted to get the 53 gr vmax if possible. No difference in killing ability, but a far better bc to help with the longer shots. But, back to your question, yes, I've used them, and they do the job. Pete I got curious about the differences in BC between the bullets and went to Hornady's web site. There is no listing for the 53 grain V-Max. Additionally, all the .224" diameter A-Max bullets, and the 35 grain V-Max are listed as "Temporarily Suspended" so unless the OP has a boat load fo the 52 grain A-Max, it might not be worth traveling down that road.~Andrew OOPS! Check that! I found the 53 VM's listed on the second page after the 60 grainers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris-NZ Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 The 53s have a very good BC- can't remember what it is but very good for a projectile of that weight. And they go Spee-LAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz6br Posted February 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Cheers chaps I've used the 53gr vmax to fire form my 200 new lapua brass and they shot good, but as a ackley round I couldn't get them to shoot as good, so I thought I'd give the 52 gr amax ago see if there any better 53gr vmax .290 bc 52gr amax .247 bc Also going to try benchmark instead of vit 133 see if that is any better, the American chaps seem to love that powder for the 223 ackley Cheers so far Gaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
247sniper Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Cheers chaps I've used the 53gr vmax to fire form my 200 new lapua brass and they shot good, but as a ackley round I couldn't get them to shoot as good, so I thought I'd give the 52 gr amax ago see if there any better 53gr vmax .290 bc 52gr amax .247 bc Also going to try benchmark instead of vit 133 see if that is any better, the American chaps seem to love that powder for the 223 ackley Cheers so far Gaz Hi gaz, May be worth giving the 53VM another go mate, might just need some fine tuning? The combination of high Bc and .223AI velocities would be a great combination. im sure the 52's would also be good but obviously your penalising your self with the lower BC. What sort of velocities were you getting from the 53's Gaz? Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si-Snipe Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 I shot lots of 53g vmax. The proposed higher BC is definitely a lure. After recent and thorough testing I found they gave me inconsistent accuracy. I have a 1:12 twist barrel on and began to wonder whether they were marginally unstable I'm line with the results from the stability calculator. I also tested 55g SBK which produced repeatable groups on the day but on different days would also struggle to group well. When I say struggle to group I refer to the bullets moving from around 0.25-0.35MOA to 0.5-0.7MOA. According to Litz and stability calculators both bullets mentioned since were not ideal for the 1:12 on the contrary to popular opinion. This I am still on the fence with as I know many people use them to good effects. I then switched to 50g SBK to see whether they would offer better consistency throughout different conditions. I was pleased to see they have so far. I have tested and repeated with the 50g SBK and am confident that they are yielding not so much better accuracy but more consistenty good accuracy. Accuracy on a good day (best case scenario regarding environmental conditions) with 55 SBK and the 53g vmax was always excellent. It's always worth re- checking loads when conditions move towards unfavourable with respect to bullet stability. Hope that helps. Si Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6.5shooter Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Si, I also found the 53 vmax a bit hard to get to shoot consistent in my swift. I reverted back to my load of 60 vmax and it I have no more worries. They may not be as high a bc but not sure it the advertised bc of the 53 vmax is true anyway beacuse I never took them out at distance to test. The 60 vmax bc seems to be spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raifuru Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Excluding the Hornet, all of my .224 caliber guns have been more accurate with the 52Amax than any other bullet. I have had kills out to 400 yards with them and they have always had a satisfactory terminal effect when they have hit (the ones that didn't were not the fault of the bullet). I did recently try the 53 Amax in a 22-250 AI and 22-250 and the accuracy was not as good by a fair margin. I also found the weight of the VMAX was over 1.5 grains in the 50 i checked and the Amax have always been good. That may well have been batch related as I cant see any reason why. For me 24.3 grains of Benchmark or 26 grains of Varget gave outstanding results in 223. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akeld Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 They were my favourite bullet before I had my .22-250 rebarreled, dropped everything on the spot, very flat shooting. They worked very well with Varget in my rifle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si-Snipe Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Si, I also found the 53 vmax a bit hard to get to shoot consistent in my swift. I reverted back to my load of 60 vmax and it I have no more worries. They may not be as high a bc but not sure it the advertised bc of the 53 vmax is true anyway beacuse I never took them out at distance to test. The 60 vmax bc seems to be spot on. Interesting. I wonder how many others have had unsatisfactory results with 53g vmax. The high advertised BC is definitely a tempting lure so I imagine that many have tried them. The problem is that the average shooter tests a minimum amount, shoots a nice group and often does not discover the consistent/repeatable accuracy of a bullet. I do quite a bit but not as much paper punching as the target shooters. Punching paper multiple times in different conditions always reveals the true potential of a loads accuracy. You get a feeling that the consistency is not there and it's back to the paper. I used the following BC's for the 53g vmax: BC Min. Velocity Max. Velocity 0.280 3000 3600 0.255 2200 3000 0.235 0 2200 The above figures worked with my drop out to 650-700yds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangbangman Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 I'm on the fence with the .224 53gr Vmax: I don't think I've shot enough of them to be sure of the consistency. My barrel is 1 : 8 so twist shouldn't be the issue. Used Benchmark only, so far. A chap on another forum posted his actual G1BC: "After returning home and plugging the numbers into JBMs ballistic computer it came back as a .271 G1 out to 605 yards. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyR Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 I too have given up with 53gr V-Max as well for exactly the same reason - inconsistency. I now use 55gr SBK in my 1 in 12 twist 22-250 and things have improved a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz6br Posted February 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Cheers for all the help guys, the 53 gr vmax are good but not good 100 % of the time. One minute you think you have cracked it next minute your starting again. Me and Nige have worked up aload today with the 52 gr amax and some benchmark so finger crossed. I didn't shoot them today as we went plinking and it was a 22 mph wind so I wasn't even thinking of testing loads today so il have to wait and see. Cheers chaps Gaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si-Snipe Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Cheers for all the help guys, the 53 gr vmax are good but not good 100 % of the time. One minute you think you have cracked it next minute your starting again. Me and Nige have worked up aload today with the 52 gr amax and some benchmark so finger crossed. I didn't shoot them today as we went plinking and it was a 22 mph wind so I wasn't even thinking of testing loads today so il have to wait and see. Cheers chaps Gaz Gaz let me know how the Amax go. Velocity, charge and accuracy. Double check them too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz6br Posted February 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 Gaz let me know how the Amax go. Velocity, charge and accuracy. Double check them too. Will do, we always double check aswell once we think we have a good load Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbob Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 Gaz I've just got some 52gr amax to try in my 223 ackley and a tub of benchmark, has anyone tryed these before and how did they do cheers Gaz They are great in my .22br over n135 very accurate fast round and never had any problems with them on vermin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ Varminter Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 I too have given up with 53gr V-Max as well for exactly the same reason - inconsistency. I now use 55gr SBK in my 1 in 12 twist 22-250 and things have improved a lot. Best .224 bullet available. ... I also use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aam Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 I haven't tried the 52 grn v-max with Benchmark powder, but I have used the following projies with BM powder. Sierra 50 grn Blitz (1340) marked on box. --- 25.0 grns = 3180 fps Hornady 50 grn SPSX and 50 v-max. --- 25.0 grns = 3200 fps This is out of a Remmy VSSF 223 with 1/12 twist and 26 inch barrel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snake378 Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 Gaz, I know this is an old post now but I have shot 453 yard rabbits with my .223 Howa on 52grn Amax at 3350fps using V133. All witnessed by "Onehole" I am well happy with this combo and cant see any reason to change my load or bullet at this time . No fox has ever walked/limped away from it ! its a cracking little round in my opinion. Ok it gets blown around and the 454yrd was a perfect day on the moor but I had three around those ranges first shot so it wasn't a fluke its well worth a play with using that load. Cheers Snake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz6br Posted April 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 Gaz, I know this is an old post now but I have shot 453 yard rabbits with my .223 Howa on 52grn Amax at 3350fps using V133. All witnessed by "Onehole" I am well happy with this combo and cant see any reason to change my load or bullet at this time . No fox has ever walked/limped away from it ! its a cracking little round in my opinion. Ok it gets blown around and the 454yrd was a perfect day on the moor but I had three around those ranges first shot so it wasn't a fluke its well worth a play with using that load. Cheers Snake Cheers for that, well at the minute I'm a happy chap with them. I'm using benchmark and getting 3470 fps out the ackley, it's not the hottest load but the most consistent. I've shot a few foxes using them now and they have all dropped on the spot, longest kill so far 427 yard crow from a cold clean barrel, I was shooting pigeons last weekend around 250 yards and they are very explosive it's my 30th today so I'm off to the gun shop to stock up for summer 400 yard group off a stack of old bails, can't ask for much more out of a foxing gun Gaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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