londonhunter Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Has anybody experience problems when transacting firearms through uk banks ? I have had issues with us banks for years but I feel now there is an unspoken rule Certain bank when they learn that we are paying for firearms related items they will politely refuse I just had a payment returned today trying to pay for something I bought from the shooting shed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akeld Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 What bank are you with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCetrizine Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Never had an issue. I've spent thousands on my debit card from places with "guns" in the name. If my bank ever refused to pay for anything for any reason, I'd switch banks. My money and what I spend it on is none of their business. They shouldn't even look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pork chop Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 name and shame,and bank with someone else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Outrageous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonhunter Posted February 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Bank of Scotland And I believe the shooting shed banks with Halifax which is part of the same group ! Signs of the times I am afraid .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike357 Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Have you spoken to the bank and asked why there was a problem with the payments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6mmBR Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 I'm in the process of opening a small business account to enable me to bring in bullets and barrels from the USA. HSBC point blank refused to give me an account as it was firearms related and not the sort of business they wanted in their portfolio. I have banked with them for years but told them I would be unable to keep my investments with them!!!!!? I walked into Lloyd's and they opened me an account with no issues what so ever, so they now have my personal accounts. The only thing they mentioned was there were certain countries they will not allow people to deal with, when I said I would only trade with the USA and Europe their were no issues. I also heard that the Co-op was very anti firearms as well. Perhaps we should remember this and move accounts away from banks with poor attitudes to firearms and tell them why!!! Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akeld Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Co-op is very anti field sports, although crack smoking whore mongering clergymen seem welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryh Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Interesting that the HSBC are quite happy to launder drug money though (until caught) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer7 Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 I've also spent a small fortune on shooting related stuff and have never had a problem, I'm with Bank of Scotland and RBS, no issues yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCetrizine Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 A bank has no right to refuse a payment with your money for any reason except insufficient funds or if they suspect fraud or identity theft. I've never met a banker who would refuse money from any source, they're not known for having any kind of ethics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonhunter Posted February 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Seems like a can of worms here boys Some of us are lucky so far Some of us have hit a brick wall from the start Some of us have found a few loops holes Whatever it is us shooters have to stick together and share information HSBC for certain is anti shooting Also it seems like if junior staff are alerted or trained to enforce this policy or not If they are not then transactions goes through without hiccups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldie Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Never had a problem with Nat West. They hold all my accounts including the business ones, which are all firearms related. They were the old BFSS bank. The co-op would not get the steam off my s...... Anti,s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avian Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Has anybody experience problems when transacting firearms through uk banks ? I have had issues with us banks for years but I feel now there is an unspoken rule Certain bank when they learn that we are paying for firearms related items they will politely refuse I just had a payment returned today trying to pay for something I bought from the shooting shed Has anybody experience problems when transacting firearms through uk banks ? I have had issues with us banks for years but I feel now there is an unspoken rule Certain bank when they learn that we are paying for firearms related items they will politely refuse I just had a payment returned today trying to pay for something I bought from the shooting shed If there were sufficient funds in the account and the purchase was legal I'd report them to some sort of banking ombudsmen as they have no right to refuse such things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akeld Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Some of us have found a few loops holes Can't really class it as a loophole when we're doing nothing illegal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltshire Boy Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 My little part time business which holds an RFD has an account with HSBC, opened in the last 6 months. It was a complete ball ache opening the account and they came up with all sorts of ridiculous ideas about why they couldn't. As it happens, in my full time job I work in the financial services industry and hence knew the right things to say etc. and got the account opened. Their anti/ignorant attitude to the legal firearms industry did however leave a lasting impression on me. I am therefore voting with my feet and am in the process of moving all my personal and business banking to Handelsbanken. Cheers Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradders Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 I'm with Barclays, and after a bit of a battle they let me have a ePDQ facility. Mind you at £30/month and 3% surcharge on transactions I decided to cancel it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spray1Mark Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 we have seen a number of dealers recently having accounts closed, refused card machines and credit, or having those services withdrawn and even refused car insurance, believe it or not those involved in legitimate firearms business are considered bad business by some establishments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1967spud Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 paypal for the win here guys it does every thing i need crossed with tsb works well for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cumbrian 1 Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 My little part time business which holds an RFD has an account with HSBC, opened in the last 6 months. It was a complete ball ache opening the account and they came up with all sorts of ridiculous ideas about why they couldn't. As it happens, in my full time job I work in the financial services industry and hence knew the right things to say etc. and got the account opened. Their anti/ignorant attitude to the legal firearms industry did however leave a lasting impression on me. I am therefore voting with my feet and am in the process of moving all my personal and business banking to Handelsbanken. Cheers Rich +1 Handelsbanken are the way forward, everything is done at branch level, no call centres, the credit control is done in branch, if you have any problems you pick up the phone and speak to a branch member, and the chairman shoots and is open about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tisme Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 My wife works in finance her view is All banks have a list compiled for anti terrorist. An automated machine might have picked up the word "shooting" on the cheque and thrown it out as Shooting might be on the list. Call and asks them to make the payment, it's illegal for them not to unless its in the terms and conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abolter Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 I use Barclays and unsurprisingly, given their track record, have had no problems at all. Even making international payments for stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6mmBR Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 I use Barclays and unsurprisingly, given their track record, have had no problems at all. Even making international payments for stuff Likewise Lloyd's were spot on and even opened me a dollar account so I can buy dollars when the price is right. It also takes away the uncertainty of exchange rates when waiting for items to come in and makes payments straight forward. Cheers Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummy Mark Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 I'm with Barclays, and after a bit of a battle they let me have a ePDQ facility. Mind you at £30/month and 3% surcharge on transactions I decided to cancel it I use PayPal business, 20 per month for a virtual terminal, plus standard tiered % of value transaction,can take payment over phone or face to face, online etc etc,been using it for 5 years now, no issues. It works out cheaper than hsbc card machine.Look into it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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